You can have multiple different versions installed too.Ableton Live 11
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240 - KVRAF
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I think it's a bit chicken & egg problem in this case, no?WatchTheGuitar wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 1:13 pm Maybe when the new chip has more than ten per cent of the potential user base.
Also, some users might be paying attention to what competition (Logic, Reaper, FL Studio and recently Bitwig) is doing and consider Apple Silicon support as an advantage when choosing a DAW.
I'm pretty sure they've started working on it the day AS was announced.
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505 - KVRAF
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Plus, Ableton developers I've met have always said that the Live user base is 50/50, and that was over ten years ago. Apple has grown a bit since then. So at some point in the next two years a huge amount of users will be on Apple Silicon. Plus plus! Ableton is a pig, using Diva etc, in it you can kill your laptop quickly. So I'm guessing Live users switch quicker than other users.antic604 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 8:53 amI think it's a bit chicken & egg problem in this case, no?WatchTheGuitar wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 1:13 pm Maybe when the new chip has more than ten per cent of the potential user base.
Also, some users might be paying attention to what competition (Logic, Reaper, FL Studio and recently Bitwig) is doing and consider Apple Silicon support as an advantage when choosing a DAW.
I'm pretty sure they've started working on it the day AS was announced.
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So you're saying it's 500/500 now?machinesworking wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 9:17 amPlus, Ableton developers I've met have always said that the Live user base is 50/50, and that was over ten years ago. Apple has grown a bit since then.
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505
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It's Fortune 500 now.antic604 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 9:19 amSo you're saying it's 500/500 now?machinesworking wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 9:17 amPlus, Ableton developers I've met have always said that the Live user base is 50/50, and that was over ten years ago. Apple has grown a bit since then.
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- KVRian
- 897 posts since 26 Jul, 2018 from Germany
First time, that I'am a bit disappointed with a Live release. Lots of crashes with third party plugins, and the show/hide buttons in the clip view are gone.
Why did they remove this?
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They didn't. It's now in tabs.
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- KVRAF
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That wasn't the question.
I don't like all the wasted space either
All I'm saying is the features are still there, just moved elsewhere.
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- KVRAF
- 2294 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London
Same. I lost the best part of two days this weekend trying to figure out/workaround for a problem I was having and to top it off, the recovery protocol was only successful about half the time. First time I used the commercial version on release, I lost half a day's work because of a crash that didn't recover. I used the beta version for the entire 3 year life cycle of Live 10 and never had any serious problems like this.Rastkovic wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 9:53 am First time, that I'am a bit disappointed with a Live release. Lots of crashes with third party plugins,
I have Bitwig now thankfully, so for solo projects I can rely on that (I ended up making the multisample bass patch for this crashing project in Bitwig actually), but I still need to use Live for collaborative work and some older solo projects. I tried the new ALS import in BWS4 but it didn't work unfortunately. It's only the first beta release so there are sure to be some kinks to iron out, but for complex projects like mine are, it may never work properly.
As has been mentioned, it's been a bit quiet on the beta release program, so fingers crossed a 11.1 release is imminent and will help with these stability problems!
Always Read the Manual!
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- KVRAF
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Sure, I didn't mean to discount your reply. I was both acknowledging that they are still there and that I prefer the previous implementation.antic604 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 10:26 amThat wasn't the question.
I don't like all the wasted space either
All I'm saying is the features are still there, just moved elsewhere.
Always Read the Manual!
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WatchTheGuitar WatchTheGuitar https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=440193 - KVRAF
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If you want to duel in cliches then isn’t it the tail trying to wag the dog?antic604 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 8:53 amI think it's a bit chicken & egg problem in this case, no?WatchTheGuitar wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 1:13 pm Maybe when the new chip has more than ten per cent of the potential user base.
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- KVRian
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I believe if you double-click that orange dot the whole clip info / next actions panel will collapse to a thin column the size of that dot.
Again, it's not perfect, but all functionality is retained + new stuff is added.
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- KVRian
- 897 posts since 26 Jul, 2018 from Germany
I am wondering, Ableton Live had always this clean, streamlined look. Workflow was the most important thing. Now it feels a little bit disimproved, "verschlimmbessert" in german. New features are not evil, but never touch things, that work for many years very well.
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