Mangler

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KVRist
54 posts since 18 Aug, 2010

Post Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:45 pm

Hey guys! I've seen some plugins that call themselves "mangle"... But what exactly is mangle in the context of audio? What is its use?

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KVRAF
2138 posts since 12 Jan, 2019

Post Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:29 pm

Could be useful in all sorts of genres. For sure, glitch. Experimental stuff, yep. And in other genres, sounds you get from mangling can be accent sounds, like something coming in here and there on a trance song.

People will sometimes bounce to audio and slice out bits to use.

Drum loops can be reinvented in extreme ways (or mangled lightly?). Rhythmic melodic loops can be taken in cool directions. Mangling effects can be about discovering.

Just brainstorming.
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KVRAF
30177 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Post Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:01 pm

Also known as FSU plugins. Usually means chopping audio into slices and rearranging it to create new rhythms or melodies, etc ... some also add fx like reverb, delay, distortion to different slices. Lots of extreme randomization options ...

KVRist
416 posts since 24 Nov, 2008

Post Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:41 pm

The whole spectrum of possibilities for this would need to include the context of midi as well as audio. Some mangling you can only get with midi (note message processing), and some only with audio wave.

KVRist

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54 posts since 18 Aug, 2010

Post Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:34 am

I get it... So basically it's a concept that proposes to change the sound with all possible range of effects... Distortion, gate, cut, modulation, etc... Actually experimental and random... It's interesting, but little used I believe me, outside the context of electronic music and experimental music...

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KVRAF
5838 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:07 am

Yeah almost never happens in classical music unless Tj Shredder is getting it into his mangle…

KVRist
416 posts since 24 Nov, 2008

Post Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:32 am

KIMCHRISTOPHER wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:34 am
.. It's interesting, but little used I believe me, outside the context of electronic music and experimental music...
You can get ideas/inspiration for composing on piano from mangling an imported midi file, or something you record.

Invert and apply negative harmony to it, for example.

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KVRAF
2138 posts since 12 Jan, 2019

Post Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:24 am

Well, it is definitely a part of cinematic music.

In a scoring competition/show/whatever, Christian Henson did some mangling to make a cool sound, at the point time-stamped in this Youtube link (at 11:11):
https://youtu.be/EPlN_ev6Qk4?t=671
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KVRist

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54 posts since 18 Aug, 2010

Post Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:33 am

very nice video!

KVRAF
22339 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from not here

Post Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:40 am

I would say a whole lot of articulations in orchestral usage qualify as mangling the thing, since it's not a specific meaning. behind the bridge, vertical tremolo, overblowing/multiphonics... and there's a fair bit of activity in serious music today which manipulates things electronically, and then the whole electroacoustic trip.
'classical music' is not a highly meaningful label for exclusion through itself IME, since in general currency as we have it it's about as specific as 'mangle'. (Literally mangling, literally classical; not so much.)
as a specific label it applies to a pretty short period of western european concert music with its attendant type of instruments, which is pretty exclusive./pendantic

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KVRAF
7989 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA

Post Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:28 pm

Be careful with those manglers! I saw a guy with no legs once ....
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KVRist

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54 posts since 18 Aug, 2010

Post Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:50 pm

RunBeerRun wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:28 pm
Be careful with those manglers! I saw a guy with no legs once ....
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