m7b5add11 chord?

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KVRian
838 posts since 26 Oct, 2011

Post Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:37 am

jancivil wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:42 am
m^7 *is* very moody. I gravitate to it frequently in part-writing, I guess because it's so effective and I enjoy it. or just the intervals m3 and M7, 'D F C#' however it figures in.
Moody, I agree - and it definitively has its place. I tend to arrive to it sometimes rarely out of voiceleading in modulating passages. Sometimes you just hear someone using it a bit too haphazardly on what was supposed to be tonic in a tune where the tonic obviously should have been bit more resolved.

Last song that we're planning to make for our album actually uses it nicely for modulation, and found a nice use for a m7b5 too: https://vocaroo.com/1hJ4H25phlfB (this being just the framework for the songwriter)

Eventually I want to make something where the mM7 actually acts as a point of rest, but gotta flesh out an actually musical idea for that. Bluesy tune, perhaps?

KVRist

Topic Starter

114 posts since 4 Aug, 2020 from Montreal, Canada

Post Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:16 pm

Colorful tune! Dig how the modulation was made happen.

A substitution for mM7 I remembered dearly was CmM7/F, aka F9b5 - 1:26 here - obviously not a point of rest, though! (well, it's actually a suspended #11!)

https://soundcloud.com/rolandcom/sdz037 ... sound-demo

(btw, that vocaroo looks great for sharing audio clips!)

KVRian
838 posts since 26 Oct, 2011

Post Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:46 pm

shawshawraw wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:16 pm
Colorful tune! Dig how the modulation was made happen.

A substitution for mM7 I remembered dearly was CmM7/F, aka F9b5 - 1:26 here - obviously not a point of rest, though! (well, it's actually a suspended #11!)

https://soundcloud.com/rolandcom/sdz037 ... sound-demo

(btw, that vocaroo looks great for sharing audio clips!)
Yup, vocaroo is great for small clips to share. Just a warning though: it is possible for these sites to share their data with some third party through some contract and cop stuff from there. Not that it's any more relevant than sharing ideas with other people, but just so you're aware: don't upload if you don't want others to cop the ideas.

Never thought about substituting a dominant chord with a mM7 chord, but I hear the logic. Generally I haven't really yet learned to appreciate the b5/#11 stuff on dominant chords, but not like I have set my way to explore those territories either yet.

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