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Bombadil wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:48 pm Thanks for your thoughts, guys and gals!
As I said, I am mostly thinking into the future when there's no more USB A inputs. Everything works fine as is. I am just hoping to streamline the wiring in back and take advantage of that 40gbps which should handle everything. And there will have to be a workaround sooner or later for RME and other devices: B-male =>C-female adapter seems obvious, but it is certainly a waste of bandwidth.
I do think that the thing to do is to watch the market for upcoming (true) TB hubs. OWC has some new ones coming out and I'm hoping that we see some more competition in this space.

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jancivil wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:51 pm it has a T3 cable itself. It works as a dongle, it does not require further to get into my T3 ports.
I think you're confusing thunderbolt3 (the signalling protocol) and usb-c (the physical port type) - sounds like you've got a usb-c to usb-typeb cable, or are using usb-c to usb-a adaptor ('tb3 dongle' would imply it's actually talking to the host using tb3 and actively converting - wheras the cheap/easy usb-c/a adaptors are totally passive)

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ghettosynth wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:11 pm
Bombadil wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:48 pm Thanks for your thoughts, guys and gals!
As I said, I am mostly thinking into the future when there's no more USB A inputs. Everything works fine as is. I am just hoping to streamline the wiring in back and take advantage of that 40gbps which should handle everything. And there will have to be a workaround sooner or later for RME and other devices: B-male =>C-female adapter seems obvious, but it is certainly a waste of bandwidth.
I do think that the thing to do is to watch the market for upcoming (true) TB hubs. OWC has some new ones coming out and I'm hoping that we see some more competition in this space.
main issue with current tb3 docks (elgato, belkin et al) is limited usb-a ports (typically 3) - we've switching to using the HP thunderbolt dock g2 for macbooks as a result, as it at least gives 3 usb-a ports and another 3 usb-c ports (one of which can operate in tb mode for things like tb3 storage or monitors). Helps that the HP dock is 1/2 the price of the competition - and delivers more power (the eglato can't deliver the full 95w the 16" mbp needs)

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jdnz wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:16 pm
ghettosynth wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:11 pm
Bombadil wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:48 pm Thanks for your thoughts, guys and gals!
As I said, I am mostly thinking into the future when there's no more USB A inputs. Everything works fine as is. I am just hoping to streamline the wiring in back and take advantage of that 40gbps which should handle everything. And there will have to be a workaround sooner or later for RME and other devices: B-male =>C-female adapter seems obvious, but it is certainly a waste of bandwidth.
I do think that the thing to do is to watch the market for upcoming (true) TB hubs. OWC has some new ones coming out and I'm hoping that we see some more competition in this space.
main issue with current tb3 docks (elgato, belkin et al) is limited usb-a ports (typically 3) - we've switching to using the HP thunderbolt dock g2 for macbooks as a result, as it at least gives 3 usb-a ports and another 3 usb-c ports (one of which can operate in tb mode for things like tb3 storage or monitors). Helps that the HP dock is 1/2 the price of the competition - and delivers more power (the eglato can't deliver the full 95w the 16" mbp needs)
The new OWC has four USB-A ports, three USB3 on the back and a USB2 on the front. As well as three thunderbolt ports. That said, different strokes. I don't find the limitation of USB A ports to be my main concern. What I'm concerned about is a combination of factors including form factor and the ability to host one or more drives. I suspect that everyone has their own take on this which is why I'm suggesting to just watch the marketplace over the next six months to a year because I suspect that we'll start to see more demand given the success of the M1 macs.

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jdnz wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:13 pm
jancivil wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:51 pm it has a T3 cable itself. It works as a dongle, it does not require further to get into my T3 ports.
I think you're confusing thunderbolt3 (the signalling protocol) and usb-c (the physical port type)
I'm definitely not and it's a reach to assert that.
it isn't a T3 device itself, OK?
"- sounds like you've got a usb-c to usb-typeb cable"
It has a USB-B to USB-C cable. it's detachable.

seems easier to draw that inference from my words (it is a dongle) than... what you did

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