What DAW is the best video editor?

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KVRAF
2117 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK

Post Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:51 pm

ReleaseCandidate wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:31 am
But in a DAW you edit the audio to fit the video, you can't edit the video. I forgot to add that to my post.
Oh! :o Had no idea that was the case, so thanks for mentioning that. I guess the Black Magic solution would make most sense in that case; I believe it should do both.
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KVRian
523 posts since 19 Oct, 2020

Post Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:28 am

SparkySpark wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:51 pm
ReleaseCandidate wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:31 am
But in a DAW you edit the audio to fit the video, you can't edit the video. I forgot to add that to my post.
Oh! :o Had no idea that was the case, so thanks for mentioning that. I guess the Black Magic solution would make most sense in that case; I believe it should do both.
Yes, the Fairlight / audio editing part of Resolve is a usable audio only DAW.

KVRian
523 posts since 19 Oct, 2020

Post Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:53 pm

Oh, Magix Vegas Pro (at least my 14) has a beat ruler too.

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KVRAF
2795 posts since 3 May, 2003 from Germany

Post Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:45 pm

SparkySpark wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:31 am
thomekk wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:43 pm
I guess if you really want make a video with different scenes and cuts you will need a full fledged video-editor - as was mentioned before. My recommendations: Da Vinci Resolve Free, Hitfilm Express and Vegas.
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And considering workflowwise: If there is a completed song it is easy to load it up into some video-editor and to make all the visuals therein. For free you also have shotcut and OpenShot.

Some work of course, but better videos probably.
Can I ask: for the true video editors (i.e. not DAWs), is there anyone that's free and easy to use that works with tempos? What I'm after is an editor that understands that my song is in 112 BPM and snaps markers accordingly (instead of to whole seconds or so). I made a video in Premiere once, but getting scene changes to snap to beats was a pain, and in the end you could tell I'd done it manually anyway.
Late reply: I don't know if there are any which could do this well.
In FL Studio the Z-Game-Editor add on is fully automatable, but I do the tweaking by hand.
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Post Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:47 am

Magix Vegas +1
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KVRian
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Post Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:23 am

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KVRer
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Post Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:39 am

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sjm wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:34 am
ZGameEditor Visualizer in FL Studio can do some really funky stuff. My biggest issue with it is that creating a fully fledged video isn't that easy if you want different scenes etc. While it's possible, at some point you're liable to get very, very lost.

What I found much more effective is to use ZGameEditor Visualizer to generate smaller snippets that I then stitched together in video editing software. The advantage I see in using ZGameEditor is that is allows you to use the song's MIDI data or audio files to influence the visualizer's output. So you can link velocity to ZGameEditor's parameter, or play around with the controller's in FL Studio (e.g. keyboard/envelope/peak controller) to control parameters. It's a great way of syncing the visuals to the music.

You can also load videos in ZGameEditor and then apply effects to that video. I used this to load a video and then applied the fractal visualizer to that video (and linking parameters to the BPM or something similar to make them increase and decrease in time with the music).

On top of that, rendering video with ZGame is extremely quick. If you apply effects in something like Vegas, rendering out the video takes an eternity.

You can see a proof of concept I made a while back here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0hkFx_HW7E

The thumbnail image is a painting done by my wife with one of the visualizers applied to it. In motion I find it looks really quite cool.

95% of the effects are from ZGameEditor, though I did apply a little bit of stuff in Vegas and have also played around with the opacity in Vegas, so that multiple videos rendered in FL Studio are layered at times.


It's really easy to create very boring videos in FL Studio - things like having a graphical EQ bounce along to your track. If that's all you need, it's about 10 seconds to set up and a few minutes to render.

If you are planning on doing "proper" video editing, you are not going to get around using video editing software though. Vegas semi-regularly goes on sale; I picked it up as part of the Humble Bundle for ~$20. Admittedly it was a slightly older version of Vegas, but it more than meets my needs. And as posted above, there are free options out there too.

As a side note, I actually used Camtasia to create an animated music video. I wouldn't suggest buying it for that purpose, as it's not really designed for that. But with a bit of creative thought, you can do quite a lot with it too. I'll not post that video because it might be viewed as incendiary, but if you want to, you can check it out on YT too.
I totally agree, ZGameEditor Visualizer in FL Studio is really cool editors that help me create great videos. Of course, I have some questions for them, since they are sometimes very difficult to use. For me, ease of use is one of the important factors in choosing a video editor. It is for this and other reasons that I currently use the Movavi video editor https://www.movavi.com/ (https://www.movavi.com/), which has the most simple and intuitive interface even for a beginner. Visual effects and creative filters, which are really huge, help me quickly create the quality videos that I want to see.
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KVRAF
2788 posts since 22 May, 2017

Post Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:51 am

FL Studio for the win.

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KVRian
1361 posts since 12 Oct, 2012

Post Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:00 pm

Fl Studio doesn't have a any video editing tools, it has a visualization generator but that is in no way "video editing".
Mixcraft & Reaper have some actual video editing tools.

KVRer
3 posts since 24 Jun, 2021

Post Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:57 am

The standard is Nuendo which is the same as Cubase since version 10.

KVRAF
2117 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK

Post Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:47 am

guitar_hero wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:57 am
The standard is Nuendo which is the same as Cubase since version 10.
Thanks! It seems Cubase Elements (roughly 100 euros) can do this: https://new.steinberg.net/cubase/features/
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
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KVRian
735 posts since 23 Sep, 2003 from UK

Post Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:12 am

I would definitely use a separate video editor rather trying to do it all in one package. There are so many free ones to choose from these days, we are really spoilt for choice. DaVinci Resolve has already been mentioned but we also have the following freebies:-
hitfilm express - https://fxhome.com/product/hitfilm-express
KdenLive - https://kdenlive.org/en/
Shotcut - https://www.shotcut.org/
Olive - https://www.olivevideoeditor.org/
Check out more of my work at https://adrianearnshaw.com where you will find tips, tricks on the blog and more of my compositions.

KVRer
4 posts since 21 Jul, 2021

Post Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:05 pm

Probably Fairlight included in DaVinci Resolve?

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