NI go VST 3

VST, AU, etc. plug-in Virtual Effects discussion
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KVRAF
21855 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:30 pm

WasteLand wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:56 am
but Softube has one framework for all. NI doesn't i believe, or i can be wrong (or some overlap, but also.. o well). perhaps they are consolidating that... one framework means, GUI resizing for one is for all..
Softube only did the DSP, NI's frameworks were used for the UI.

KVRAF
2003 posts since 8 Jun, 2018

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:35 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:30 pm
WasteLand wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:56 am
but Softube has one framework for all. NI doesn't i believe, or i can be wrong (or some overlap, but also.. o well). perhaps they are consolidating that... one framework means, GUI resizing for one is for all..
Softube only did the DSP, NI's frameworks were used for the UI.
yes that what was i meant. i meant Softube own products share the same framework, which means, all gets updated (and has also a side-effect, one thing wrong, it goes wrong for every plugin...).
the compressors of NI indeed use only Softube DSP. o well means; quality... but i never had with any NI instrument or FX plugin the feeling, this doesn't sound right, quite the opposite. the GUI is outdated perhaps, but the sound......

so NI has a framework, but not for all plugins, i suspect. but i can be wrong.
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KVRAF
21855 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:12 pm

NI has several frameworks for products from different eras, which makes things more difficult to maintain. But they're chipping away at it so that everything is under one.

KVRAF
2003 posts since 8 Jun, 2018

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:14 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:12 pm
NI has several frameworks for products from different eras, which makes things more difficult to maintain. But they're chipping away at it so that everything is under one.
i suspected that already. maintaining will be lot easier. in the meantime, i will enjoy all...
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KVRian
1379 posts since 2 Jul, 2007

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:48 pm

Did they fix their GUI's and make them scalable yet?
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KVRAF
29234 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:03 pm

trusampler wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:48 pm
Did they fix their GUI's?
What does that mean?
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

KVRian
1379 posts since 2 Jul, 2007

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:07 pm

Proper scalable UI's.. which work on 4k for example? Looks like update 1.4.0 are for the efx only :neutral:
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KVRian
1294 posts since 11 Apr, 2008

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:29 pm

No scalable GUIs in this update
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KVRer
7 posts since 17 Jun, 2021

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:55 pm

pixel85 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:29 pm
No scalable GUIs in this update
Ugh, the one thing I was really hoping for, honestly. It just baffles me...Kontakt has a scalable UI, but none of the plugins do. Baffling.

KVRAF
9238 posts since 12 May, 2008

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:35 pm

Null_Echo wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:55 pm
pixel85 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:29 pm
No scalable GUIs in this update
Ugh, the one thing I was really hoping for, honestly. It just baffles me...Kontakt has a scalable UI, but none of the plugins do. Baffling.
Kontakt UI isn't scalable. You can resize the window but everything in it stays the same size.
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KVRAF
3961 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:45 pm

It just sucks that most of the time we can't choose to put VST3's on other drives - if you have a smaller SSD C Drive for your OS, then it's gonna fill up.

KVRian
654 posts since 13 Feb, 2013

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:01 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:30 pm
WasteLand wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:56 am
but Softube has one framework for all. NI doesn't i believe, or i can be wrong (or some overlap, but also.. o well). perhaps they are consolidating that... one framework means, GUI resizing for one is for all..
Softube only did the DSP, NI's frameworks were used for the UI.
EvilDragon, any idea if NI will ever add oversampling as an option to their analog emulation compressors? It's a bit frustrating that they work better in GR, which at least oversamples 2x, than standalone. :scared:

When I saw the vst3 update I had hoped that they bring the plugins also technically to 2021, not only from the plugin format.

KVRian
970 posts since 3 Oct, 2011 from Christchurch, New Zealand

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:26 pm

MogwaiBoy wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:45 pm
It just sucks that most of the time we can't choose to put VST3's on other drives - if you have a smaller SSD C Drive for your OS, then it's gonna fill up.
just use a junction to redirect c:\program files\common files\vst3 to a folder on another drive - works fine

KVRer
7 posts since 17 Jun, 2021

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:46 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:35 pm
Null_Echo wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:55 pm
pixel85 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:29 pm
No scalable GUIs in this update
Ugh, the one thing I was really hoping for, honestly. It just baffles me...Kontakt has a scalable UI, but none of the plugins do. Baffling.
Kontakt UI isn't scalable. You can resize the window but everything in it stays the same size.
Fair, but at least it's better than no resizing options other than hacking the CSS. At least the UI is decent on the Komplete keyboards and Maschine, but, man, they could use some UX people at NI.

KVRAF
9238 posts since 12 May, 2008

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:55 pm

Null_Echo wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:46 pm
Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:35 pm
Null_Echo wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:55 pm
pixel85 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:29 pm
No scalable GUIs in this update
Ugh, the one thing I was really hoping for, honestly. It just baffles me...Kontakt has a scalable UI, but none of the plugins do. Baffling.
Kontakt UI isn't scalable. You can resize the window but everything in it stays the same size.
Fair, but at least it's better than no resizing options other than hacking the CSS. At least the UI is decent on the Komplete keyboards and Maschine, but, man, they could use some UX people at NI.
The UI of Guitar Rig 6 is pretty nice. Massive X is a disaster. But Super 8 on the other hand is nice.
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