Fabfilter announce TIMELESS 3 !!!!!!!

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KVRian
1045 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland

Post Sun May 30, 2021 2:56 pm

Not especially about Timeless3, but the guys from Fabfilter recently did an interview for a Dutch broadcaster, pretty interesting read. It's in Dutch tho :
https://3voor12.vpro.nl/artikelen/overz ... rview.html
More BPM please

KVRian
582 posts since 4 Feb, 2017

Post Sun May 30, 2021 10:52 pm

dionenoid wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 2:56 pm
Not especially about Timeless3, but the guys from Fabfilter recently did an interview for a Dutch broadcaster, pretty interesting read. It's in Dutch tho :
https://3voor12.vpro.nl/artikelen/overz ... rview.html
Bedankt voor de tip. Erg interessant.

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KVRAF
4991 posts since 23 Aug, 2014 from Boston/Cambridge

Post Mon May 31, 2021 5:01 am

dionenoid wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 2:56 pm
Not especially about Timeless3, but the guys from Fabfilter recently did an interview for a Dutch broadcaster, pretty interesting read. It's in Dutch tho :
https://3voor12.vpro.nl/artikelen/overz ... rview.html
Great share, thanks. Those are pretty amazing guys.

KVRer
23 posts since 27 May, 2021 from Russia

Post Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:11 am

dionenoid wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 2:56 pm
Not especially about Timeless3, but the guys from Fabfilter recently did an interview for a Dutch broadcaster, pretty interesting read. It's in Dutch tho :
https://3voor12.vpro.nl/artikelen/overz ... rview.html
thank you
intresting interview

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KVRian
1311 posts since 30 Mar, 2014

Post Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:34 pm

I’ve been trying to use this and... it’s easily the hardest delay to use that I own. Fabfilter is known for their interfaces, but this is just not great at all. Even the previous version was easier to use.

It has some great sounds in it, but I’m giving it a solid C+

KVRist
178 posts since 12 Mar, 2016

Post Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:46 pm

Disagree. I jumped on it because it is friggin easy to use. I disliked v2 for being too confusing. This one can be easy and mighty at the same time. And I already build some nice reverbs with it XD

KVRAF
4109 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:29 am

Yeah the original feedback knobs were terrible and i could never memorize which offset is which timing, this makes more sense imo.
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KVRAF
15628 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there

Post Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:56 am

Processing orchestral cello (VSL) with a custom preset in Timeless 3, tweaking the installed Macros on the fly.

https://youtu.be/159FBP8DaO0

KVRAF
22313 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from not here

Post Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:04 am

great demo, I can see I would really use this.

KVRian
901 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW

Post Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:03 pm

dangayle wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:34 pm
I’ve been trying to use this and... it’s easily the hardest delay to use that I own. Fabfilter is known for their interfaces, but this is just not great at all. Even the previous version was easier to use.

It has some great sounds in it, but I’m giving it a solid C+
This one definitely has some usability issues. Sounds good. Sadly harder to use than it should be.

KVRian
515 posts since 7 Dec, 2018 from Saint-Petersburg

Post Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:55 am

Plugin with that level of complexity can’t be three knob delay. I don’t feel it’s hard to use after I figured out how it operates. It’s a very well coded and versatile delay/reverb tool so you need to actually use it to get used for it. And, it doesn’t take much time actually...

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KVRAF
4991 posts since 23 Aug, 2014 from Boston/Cambridge

Post Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:58 am

Dombaeb wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:55 am
Plugin with that level of complexity can’t be three knob delay. I don’t feel it’s hard to use after I figured out how it operates. It’s a very well coded and versatile delay/reverb tool so you need to actually use it to get used for it. And, it doesn’t take much time actually...
^^^ This

KVRian
636 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8

Post Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:24 am

Dombaeb wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:55 am
Plugin with that level of complexity can’t be three knob delay. I don’t feel it’s hard to use after I figured out how it operates. It’s a very well coded and versatile delay/reverb tool so you need to actually use it to get used for it. And, it doesn’t take much time actually...
More complex often means a bit more fiddly behaviour, but in this case i'm also in the “bad design / bad decisions“ camp as it's predecessor shows, because it was (at least IMO) way less click heavy and relying on keyboard commands than this one does. And this is not even because of the added features, but because they thought it was cool to remove dedicated control knobs and dots and for whatever reason found it more intuitive to use CTRL+mouse drag more intuitive than just a simple mouse drag for the panning, etc.

It's still of course a good delay, but controls it has been butchered and not as quick to work with for no good reason and not because of added features
“People pay good money for old stuff because they mistakenly think that the gear has more to do with the products than it actually did. And because it makes them feel good to own it.“ wise man on GS

KVRist
86 posts since 5 Apr, 2018

Post Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:01 am

Well I have bought the update and I'm using it already way more than v2, which I have found to be more cluttered. For me a clear improvement in handling, feedback and sound.
I also used for having control over creating early reflections on a reverb bus.

KVRian
515 posts since 7 Dec, 2018 from Saint-Petersburg

Post Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:58 am

I understand. We are always facing with "not ideal" designs. As the interface designer myself, I immediately see how it was possible to do better what I have already done. And I use this knowledge on the next project and then it repeats again :hihi:

Timeless 3 is definitely a big step further to actually useful and powerful delay plugin. I physically couldn't use Timeless 2 because it was really badly designed. Timeless 3 is another story, I quickly got used to it and can use it with pleasure, it already costs a lot.

So, I'm in "Not perfect, but very good" camp :)
FapFilter wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:24 am
Dombaeb wrote:
Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:55 am
Plugin with that level of complexity can’t be three knob delay. I don’t feel it’s hard to use after I figured out how it operates. It’s a very well coded and versatile delay/reverb tool so you need to actually use it to get used for it. And, it doesn’t take much time actually...
More complex often means a bit more fiddly behaviour, but in this case i'm also in the “bad design / bad decisions“ camp as it's predecessor shows, because it was (at least IMO) way less click heavy and relying on keyboard commands than this one does. And this is not even because of the added features, but because they thought it was cool to remove dedicated control knobs and dots and for whatever reason found it more intuitive to use CTRL+mouse drag more intuitive than just a simple mouse drag for the panning, etc.

It's still of course a good delay, but controls it has been butchered and not as quick to work with for no good reason and not because of added features

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