Spire Synthesizer

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KVRAF
7707 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:44 am

phreaque wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:28 am
SLiC wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:15 am
A lot of them seem to be done by you :wink:

There are so many great Synths available and I already have Rapid and Avenger....even in the sale this is still 180 USD with VAT, its not exactly a no brainer, but I may pick up the Re as I have Reason rewards and can get it for £49.
I'm just one of many other creative designers, never intend to promote myself here though.

The Reason variant is definitely the right deal for you apparently, you won't regret it :)
It's not a problem, your work is impressive! Yes, as I have a £50 rewards voucher for the Reason shop it seems like a good deal- I was actually just waiting to see what the summer sale would be, but I think I will get the best value from the Re version for now, especially as I can use it as a VST in the rack anyway...I know a lot of people, said its better to buy the full version, but I think as I haver the voucher the Re makes more sense for me and maybe one day it will be updated with more 'back panel' CV control.
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KVRist
348 posts since 29 Apr, 2019

Post Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:46 am

RikkShow wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:16 pm
ALL REs are already High-Res, but it hasn't been enabled in Reason DAW, but it will now starting with v12.

Work-flow is slightly different in the RE: The Step mod and Arp is split between two windows to jump between. A mild annoyance, but MUCH less so now that I can look at in 140% or 200% magnification. The mod matrix shows one mod/slot at the time, and you have to step through to the next slot. So, not as fluent as having them all visible on one page.

CPU wise: It seems the RE takes up a load as if it is set to a fixed buffer of 64. It doesn't change CPU load if you got to a buffer of say 512. A heavy patch is 10-15% on my Ryzen 9.
The VST sucks up the same CPU at a buffer of 64, but uses around half at 512.
It seems ReSpire inside RRP and in Cubase is slightly more than the VST. (no exact science, just looking at my CPU meter)

The RE gives you CV inputs and Combinator modulation. No CV type modulation on the VST obviously.
You obviously know you have to pay more for the VST.

I have not encountered bugs in ReSpire, but I heard there were bugs in the past, so I'm assuming they are fixed, but I may be incorrect here, though I have no issues, not ever...

I believe Reveal could use the newest RE SDK and design panels like on the VST and fix the UI work-flow issues, but I'm assuming it is a lot of re-coding, and perhaps not a good return on investment. But it should be possible.
There are CV inputs for all VSTs in Reason DAW
When you a vst open the editor and you'll have a host of cv inputs you can map to other controls

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KVRian
1058 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland

Post Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:48 am

SLiC wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:58 am
Seems like a nice synth, I looked at the Re but it never seems to be updated- is the VST updated much or is it 'as it is'?
Don't know about the RE version, but the vst is updated quite a few times, including recently a new preset browser.
More BPM please

KVRAF
28819 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:16 am

Unfortunately always with some introduced bugs with each update, as of late...

The bug that init patches which have been changed can't be initialized anymore when you click the init button again still hasn't been fixed.
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

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KVRian
1158 posts since 17 Jul, 2007 from Baghdad-Iq

Post Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:20 am

SLiC wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:44 am
It's not a problem, your work is impressive! Yes...
Thanks :) glad to hear that
... but I think as I haver the voucher the Re makes more sense for me and maybe one day it will be updated with more 'back panel' CV control.
True, good approach if looking at it from this aspect. :tu:
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KVRist
192 posts since 26 Jul, 2018 from Germany

Post Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:06 am

Since five minutes I'm also a proud owner of Spire.

The "Dune 3 vs Sylenth 1 vs Seum for techno/trance" - thread got me to test Spire again. Test passed. ;)

KVRAF
28819 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:08 am

Have fun, it's a nice one. :tu:
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KVRian
1158 posts since 17 Jul, 2007 from Baghdad-Iq

Post Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:43 am

Rastkovic wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:06 am
Since five minutes I'm also a proud owner of Spire.

The "Dune 3 vs Sylenth 1 vs Seum for techno/trance" - thread got me to test Spire again. Test passed. ;)
Nice congrats :party: now I can shamefully promote my sounds to you :lol: naaah jk
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KVRian
736 posts since 27 Oct, 2011 from Pacific Northwest

Post Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:34 pm

Spire has been so much fun. I got it in January and they continue to make updates. And new libraries coming out almost every day. It sounds beautiful.

Sale going on right now, too.

KVRAF
7707 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:33 am

I ended up buying the VST version rather then the Re...it is indeed a lovely sound and I have had the 'white noise' demo on my machine for ages...so it was time!

I hope at some point the add MPE and have a bit more visual feedback as to what's going on with the modulation...
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KVRAF
28819 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:47 am

SLiC wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:33 am
I ended up buying the VST version rather then the Re...it is indeed a lovely sound and I have had the 'white noise' demo on my machine for ages...so it was time!
Good choice really. The VST version will be a much better investment.
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KVRist
192 posts since 26 Jul, 2018 from Germany

Post Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:47 am

Does the 'Click Removal' option work? I can't hear actually a difference....

And yes, my ears are fine. I was at the ear specialist today. :lol:

KVRAF
28819 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:52 am

Rastkovic wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:47 am
Does the 'Click Removal' option work? I can't hear actually a difference....
As far as I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong), what click removal actually does is remove clicks which can occur when switching presets, not the transient clicks.
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KVRAF
7707 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:53 am

I was looking at a few sound packs and came across this...

https://bellatrixaudio.com/product/best ... ollection/

Spire pre-sets collection 25 sound packs for $20! (yes, that's 25 sound packs, seems to be 23 Spire, 1 kick drum samples and 1 Diva!)
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KVRist
192 posts since 26 Jul, 2018 from Germany

Post Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:10 am

chk071 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:52 am
Rastkovic wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:47 am
Does the 'Click Removal' option work? I can't hear actually a difference....
As far as I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong), what click removal actually does is remove clicks which can occur when switching presets, not the transient clicks.
Interesting, I didn't expect this.

To me, Spire is a little bit more clicky than other soft synths with AMP Env attack set to zero. Because of fast envelopes? I don't know....

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