Dune 3 vs Sylenth 1 vs Seum for techno/trance

[MegaPixel]

Love that studio, and yeah he makes use of them. I guess its what you like.

Tbh I am using Thorn and Diversion a lot atm. tbh i've become more of a preset whore than making my own sounds but I simply love the GUI's on these two, and it makes it more of a pleasure to use.

Exactly, you are experienced artist that have personal preference, think that's your advantage over 90% of people trying to figure out and make techno, you can easily get a grip of things and than do your own twist with them, having background in another genre is big plus, you probably got some habits that will define your signature techno sound, probably you will excel at some harder techno sound, so just utilize your guns to your advantage!

It's so wierd that I was in the car with the wife and she had a techno playlist on her Spotify playing and I really liked it. So I figured time to move away from the hard styles and try something new. Really interesting learning about it and listening to the DJs that play it, such a change in attitude and tempo.

I've found myself changing to progressive, the number of genre classifications these days are insane (way too many and a bit silly imo), so I dug out di.fm and signed up again, got lost in the genre classifications and eventually found a few that I liked but I do enjoy the progressive channel. Techno is no longer techno, trance is no longer trance, well not how I remember it used to be anyway...

[Spring Goose]

Love that studio, and yeah he makes use of them. I guess its what you like.

Tbh I am using Thorn and Diversion a lot atm. tbh i've become more of a preset whore than making my own sounds but I simply love the GUI's on these two, and it makes it more of a pleasure to use.

Exactly, you are experienced artist that have personal preference, think that's your advantage over 90% of people trying to figure out and make techno, you can easily get a grip of things and than do your own twist with them, having background in another genre is big plus, you probably got some habits that will define your signature techno sound, probably you will excel at some harder techno sound, so just utilize your guns to your advantage!

It's so wierd that I was in the car with the wife and she had a techno playlist on her Spotify playing and I really liked it. So I figured time to move away from the hard styles and try something new. Really interesting learning about it and listening to the DJs that play it, such a change in attitude and tempo.

I've found myself changing to progressive, the number of genre classifications these days are insane (way too many and a bit silly imo), so I dug out di.fm and signed up again, got lost in the genre classifications and eventually found a few that I liked but I do enjoy the progressive channel. Techno is no longer techno, trance is no longer trance, well not how I remember it used to be anyway...

They're still releasing progressive tunes but calling it techno now aren't they?

[AnX]

Dune should have been a single filter instrument from day one. Without question. It would probs be the most advanced instrument on the planet TBH.

what does that even mean?

[MegaPixel]

They're still releasing progressive tunes but calling it techno now aren't they?

Well on di.fm Progressive is more like chilled trance / uplifting trance / dance? of old...
eg:




But I wouldn't call this Dark Minimal Techno, I would call this Progressive:



But for those not into these genres, I find they all call them either trance, techno or edm

[MegaPixel]

But then you got Chillstep, which I also quite enjoy, DubStep is usually not my cup of tea...

What would you call this, Dub Trance lol... I guess Chillstep is a good as name as any. But I wouldn't call it DubStep...



Just take a look at the genres / channels on di.fm, one of the reasons I don't use spotify as youtube covers that.

https://www.di.fm/channels

[4damind]

"Progressive" I would see as the somewhat "more modern interpretation". In trance, for example, everything that is not played completely from beginning to end on only one note, but also allows simple melodies.
There is also "Progressive Chillout" which I would understand as somewhat faster "up-driven" music.
I'm also played on Di.fm mostly in Chillout/Chillout Dreams although some tracks are more "progressive"

Boris used to make Minimal Techno. But some stuff I heard from him sounded more like progressive trance/techno.

[MegaPixel]

"Progressive" I would see as the somewhat "more modern interpretation". In trance, for example, everything that is not played completely from beginning to end on only one note, but also allows simple melodies.
There is also "Progressive Chillout" which I would understand as somewhat faster "up-driven" music.
I'm also played on Di.fm mostly in Chillout/Chillout Dreams although some tracks are more "progressive"

Boris used to make Minimal Techno. But some stuff I heard from him sounded more like progressive trance/techno.

Nice, also one of my fav channels

I built a little desktop application (untested on mac and linux) for running di.fm in it's own application (basically an electron application - chromium based). I got pissed off as when I'm working I'm closing browser tabs and testing in browsers all day and loosing my music, and MusicBee aint no WinAmp and makes hooking up the pls links a pain in the ass, not to mention I'm not too fussed on the application. I wanted something that has all the website 's features also, so the app was born.

https://github.com/DarceyLloyd/DI.FM--- ... ases/Win64

It should just work, if not install nodejs and then give it a run again and you will have a di.fm as a dedicated windows application.

Untested on mac as I don't have one.
Untested on linux as I don't have it installed at the moment or the time.

Electron apps are cross platform but do need to be tested and adjust for each and it's not like anyone is paying me to do it.

[recursive one]

"Progressive" I would see as the somewhat "more modern interpretation". In trance, for example, everything that is not played completely from beginning to end on only one note, but also allows simple melodies.
There is also "Progressive Chillout" which I would understand as somewhat faster "up-driven" music.

I think you mean "progressive psytrance" and "chillgressive"
Progressive psy (136-143 bpm, may indeed contain some melodies though not necessarily)

Chillgressive (slower psytrance with a "deeper" sound, usually 90-125 bpm)


There is also other kind of progressive, it seems to be also called "melodic techno" or "neotrance" - I'm not sure if these are separate subgrenres or just different names for the same thing, it all sounds more or less the same to me (I do like it though)

Also "progressive breaks"


Progressive seems a kind of umbrella term which essentially means whatever you want it to mean, you may attach this word to any subgrenre name, progressive dubstep, progressive Norvegian black metal, progressive polka and whatnot.

[4damind]

Yes, with genres and subgenres it's almost a science of its own. There is music like Above & Beyond that is always classified as trance, but sounds more like pop music/EDM to me. Just like many tracks that are labeled as techno but don't sound like techno to me... maybe it's progressive melodic techno

[chk071]

The German Wikipedia has a nice explanation what "progressive" means in Progressive Trance (translated with Google):

"Progressive" means "progressive", "building up". This means the typical, successive structure of the compositions, which usually extends over several minutes and is in stark contrast to the classic stanza-chorus structure that is often found in trance. At a speed of around 128 to 134 BPM, every quarter is emphasized with a bass drum in 4/4 time. Hi-hats and snares are typically divided into even (i.e., non-dotted) sixteenths.

I totally agree with that being the general characteristic of tracks in that genre. At least in this case, I don't think it's an umbrella term, which can mean anything. As usual (and like with everything), there will be borderline cases.

[Spring Goose]

Back in my day progressive was for example Sasha and Digweed.

[LeVzi]

Don't forget minimal

[AnX]

Back in my day progressive was for example Sasha and Digweed.

yep, sometimes called Epic Trance

[recursive one]

The German Wikipedia has a nice explanation what "progressive" means in Progressive Trance (translated with Google):

"Progressive" means "progressive", "building up". This means the typical, successive structure of the compositions, which usually extends over several minutes and is in stark contrast to the classic stanza-chorus structure that is often found in trance. At a speed of around 128 to 134 BPM, every quarter is emphasized with a bass drum in 4/4 time. Hi-hats and snares are typically divided into even (i.e., non-dotted) sixteenths.

I totally agree with that being the general characteristic of tracks in that genre. At least in this case, I don't think it's an umbrella term, which can mean anything. As usual (and like with everything), there will be borderline cases.

Within psytrance, "progressive" does have a definite meaning - slower, less intence, more groovy and more atmospheric.

Psytrance (full-on)

Psytrance (progressive)

Btw, it's same artist contributing into both tracks (Spirit Architect = Dual Resonance)

But there is also another kind of "progressive psytrance" which is a bit of a Guinea pig because it's neither psytrance nor progressive but it's called such for whatever reason

I mean like Neelix, Ghost Rider and such

[LeVzi]

Man alive, wtf, too many sub genres !!!