Groups, Hidden channels and Folding...

[Kirkwood West]

It seems like groups cause a lot of issues with controller scripts. what are people doing to get around these?

Folded groups are hidden from trackbanks
I'm trying to get a flat list of the channel list but if any groups are folded they seem to be hidden from the track bank. Is there any secret way to access those?

Cannot unfold group via api
Is there a way to fold/unfold a group via API? Apparently not? seems to be missing from the API for a long time. well at least since groups were invented...

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https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=268

I've heard several times in polaritys bitwig discord about not using groups with their control scripts because of this issue. such a shame for such a great feature.

As always please correct me if i'm wrong just want to find solutions for these...

[minortom]

I'd love to know the answers too. From what I've seen:

Hidden folder groups — if it's not visible in the app, it doesn't exist as far as API is concerned.

Unfolding groups from the API — I did find find a way.

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val foldToggleTop: Action = application.getAction("toggle_top_level_track_groups_expanded")
val foldToggleAll: Action = application.getAction("toggle_all_track_groups_expanded")

.invoke() one of those and voila. Haven't found a way to fold/unfold one specific group.

There is a way to enter and exit a specific group.

[Kirkwood West]

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val foldToggleAll: Action = application.getAction("toggle_all_track_groups_expanded")

Thats helpful man. This will be useful to expand everything. A little overkill, and no way to determine if everything is expanded or not. ugh. It would be super nice to fold/unfold specific group! and to check the channels that are folded. we continue to dream.

[Kirkwood West]

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