Motorola DSP563xx Emulator (BETA) (Access Virus, Nord Lead, Waldorf MW...)

[PAK]

I already spoke to the MAME devs at the start of this journey after finding similar things, they said they had no intentions of doing any of the synths, not anytime soon anyway

Yeah, there's 190 things listed under "music" presently.. though some is gaming / toys / karaoke related stuff. Almost all of it is also marked "preliminary", which means they have the ROM included and it's on a "to do" list. I think, with many gaming things done, they're looking for additional challenges to keep the project active..

Only the Yamaha FB-01 is listed as fully working, with the Casio RZ-1 and Ensoniq KT-76 listed as "working but imperfect". They've even got things like the Juno 106 on there - meaning they have the digital part of it.. but it would then require emulation of the whole analogue side to be able to use it!

BTW Any chance of adding Virus A support soon? Main reason to consider being it'd hopefully lower the CPU requirements by quite a bit..

[bioroid]

K2000 is on that list and that was out in 1991. Should be totally doable from the CPU load perspective, but it's a proprietary chip so prob impossible without the right documentation.

[numerouno]

BTW Any chance of adding Virus A support soon? Main reason to consider being it'd hopefully lower the CPU requirements by quite a bit..

Virus A support is coming soon

[gentleclockdivider]

I agree there is somethoing odd with the overall cpu consumption
I have a pretty old i5 , and sometimes it just 10 % playing a few voices , after a while the cpu rises to 100% without dropping back .

[Markus Krause]

The legal issues of playing with emulation based stuff seem a bit moot since the roms and synths are no longer available from the original companies.

The ROMs/BIOS of computers, game-console or synthesizer are usually copyrighted by the company. Distributing and downloading a 'ROM-backup' without the permission of the copyright-owner is illegal unless you got a written permission from the owner. It does not matter if the product is still sold or not.
That's why game-console-emulators like MAME do come without the BIOS ROMs.

By the way: Great work with the emulator

[AnX]

so are 'we' saying it's fully legal to build an emu, but totally illegal to access the ROM to put in it?

this means the emu is legally useless, and should not be encouraged if one is to remain legal....?

its certainly seems a dilemma for KVR....

[vurt]

so are 'we' saying it's fully legal to build an emu, but totally illegal to access the ROM to put in it?

this means the emu is legally useless, and should not be encouraged if one is to remain legal....?

its certainly seems a dilemma for KVR....

not totally, if you own the device, you have the legal right to use it in an emu for personal use.

think of it like buying a record, fine to tape it for your walkman type device, but not to give to others.

[Freaqpeak]

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The companies could embrace this by start selling the ROMs of their old and abandonded products, they could benefit from an emulator.

when the ROMs have been available on the net for years for free, i doubt they would have many sales

Just like warez has always been available to download?........ still a lot of companies sell lots of software. Why do they?

not really the same thing is it

Yes it is. Why would it not be the same thing?

[Shiek927]

BTW Any chance of adding Virus A support soon? Main reason to consider being it'd hopefully lower the CPU requirements by quite a bit..

Virus A support is coming soon

Thank you!! that should be fun and awesome news about the Waldorf programmer working with you!! having members of the original team sounds like a fantastic way to bridge the hardware with this emulator

[Freaqpeak]

Nothing wrong with using an emulator either. Sure its sort of a gray area, but bottom line is that the companies wont lose any income.

Competing plugin companies with a similar product will lose income, though.

That is VERY far fetched. Maybe they should make something original then and dont copy something old - offer something that the abondended hardware does not.
So you would actually buy Arturia, Behringer or anything from small developers that makes clones from old hardware? And if a similar product is copying the original, that is OK to you to buy?? (Freeware doing emulations or variations, must be your worst nightmare..)
But I should not be using abandoned hardware synths since other companies make clones/competing products??

So, Buying second hand hardware synths are immoral since there are variations/clones that OTHER companies are selling at the moment... Now that is hilarious..

[vurt]

So, Buying second hand hardware synths are immoral since there are variations/clones that OTHER companies are selling at the moment... Now that is hilarious..

once you reach the point of clasping at the absurd, your parachute will fail.

[keel]

So, is this going to be synth that you need that loop midi all the time? Or will this be just like a normal VSTi in future? I am stupid, help me!

[numerouno]

So, is this going to be synth that you need that loop midi all the time? Or will this be just like a normal VSTi in future? I am stupid, help me!

It will function as a normal VST in future

GUI coming soon

[BenfordLaw]

So, is this going to be synth that you need that loop midi all the time? Or will this be just like a normal VSTi in future? I am stupid, help me!

It will function as a normal VST in future

GUI coming soon

That looks fantastic!
Re the CPU usage on my i7 4790s - I've finally come across some sounds that break up when I play more than four notes - I checked in Task Manager (I'm using Windows 8.1, FL Studio ASIO on an HP Elitedesk 800 G1 with VST Host), and (obviously) one core is being used, it hovers around 60% of that one core (of eight) when no notes are pressed, then if I play certain presets with more than four notes, or several four note chords in quick succession, that core hits 100% and the sound breaks up. As the notes die out, the core goes back down to about 60% when the emulator is silent.

[BenfordLaw]

The legal issues of playing with emulation based stuff seem a bit moot since the roms and synths are no longer available from the original companies.

The ROMs/BIOS of computers, game-console or synthesizer are usually copyrighted by the company. Distributing and downloading a 'ROM-backup' without the permission of the copyright-owner is illegal unless you got a written permission from the owner. It does not matter if the product is still sold or not.
That's why game-console-emulators like MAME do come without the BIOS ROMs.

By the way: Great work with the emulator

What if the company no longer exists, and nobody owns the rights to the ROM any more? What if you can no longer buy the product because they don't make it any more, and it was hardware in the first place, not software?
When somebody builds a hardware synth and expects it to sell for five to ten years, do you think they think "What are we going to do if somebody builds an emulator of our synth in thirty years' time, and people download copies of our ROM illegally? Oh, the humanity!"

This is rather like the BBC charging the public for audio CDs and DVDs of radio and television programmes which were already paid for AT THE TIME THEY WERE BROADCAST, by the licence fee, rather than making them available for free online to all TV Licence owners... They are trying to make out that when they made programme 'X', they were relying on future purchases of DVDs or streaming versions of that programme, in order to fund it. Obviously they were not.