CrispyTuner - Autotune/pitch shifter (Crazy good and crazy cheap)

[Warped Effect]

It's unfortunate that Plugin Alliances version of CrispyTuner still only has mono support lol, but that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, because CrushedPixel was always against the idea of adding stereo support to CrispyTuner for some strange reason.

Info from the bx_crispytuner pdf manual:
The bx_crispytuner only processes monophonic input, therefore stereo
tracks are tuned by taking the average of the two channels as the input
signal.

[jens]

Of course he was - because what you are asking for doesn't really make sense.

[fairlyclose]

It's unfortunate that Plugin Alliances version of CrispyTuner still only has mono support lol, but that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, because CrushedPixel was always against the idea of adding stereo support to CrispyTuner for some strange reason.

Info from the bx_crispytuner pdf manual:
The bx_crispytuner only processes monophonic input, therefore stereo
tracks are tuned by taking the average of the two channels as the input
signal.

does this mean it outputs mono or it still outputs stereo just the pitch info is derived from the stereo>mono information? In other words - will a processed stereo track have the same stereo field as if it were unprocessed?

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Of course he was - because what you are asking for doesn't really make sense.

He PM'd me [for completely unknown reasons - I don't even own the plug nor was I actively participating in this latest discussion] to say he needs stereo pitch correction because he uses voice manipulation with his stereo Rode microphone to troll people on video games with pitch shifted and harmonized voices.

So his use case for stereo tuning is one that has nothing to do with music production. Which is why it wasn't making sense to us.

[jens]

I see - he PMed me too with some confused (or at the very least confusing) ramblings... (couldn't be arsed to reply)

[Warped Effect]

Of course he was - because what you are asking for doesn't really make sense.

So his use case for stereo tuning is one that has nothing to do with music production. Which is why it wasn't making sense to us.

I don't know why both of you are pretending that hardly anyone uses Monophonic AutoTune plugins with stereo support for music production.

If hardly anyone uses Monophonic AutoTune plugins with stereo support for music production, then can you explain why all of these other people from audio plugin forums immediately lost interest in CrispyTuner when they discovered that it only has mono support ?

Fun fact: Waves Tune Real-Time is a Monophonic AutoTune plugin with stereo support.

Hey mate,

Thanks a lot for the heads up. Good to know, I'll pay attention to this mono stereo issue. Hopefully Developers will get that sort out or have a Mono & stereo version.

I have a stereo vocoder so thanks for the heads up. I'll use Waves Tune Real Time for that.

Yeah it is weird with the stereo thing. I put it onto a stereo BGV stem and it monoized the stereo source. I didn't export a mix yet with this plugin.

Waves Tune Real time produces a different result on stereo files BTW. I checked. Something in the Waves one felt more coherent.

Thanks for letting me know. I would have just taken it for granted it was stereo. Good to find out now and not the hard way later on

[jens]

If hardly anyone uses Monophonic AutoTune plugins with stereo support for music production, then can you explain why all of these other people from audio plugin forums immediately lost interest in CrispyTuner when they discovered that it only has mono support ?

Perhaps they're clueless?

One of them even wants to put it after a Vocoder...

(and one of the others wanted to use it on a stereo background-vocals stem - you coudln't possibly make this shit up... )

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Perhaps they're clueless?

One of them even wants to put it after a Vocoder...

(and one of the others wanted to use it on a stereo background-vocals stem - you coudln't possibly make this shit up... )

What if someones song/mix is in stereo and they want to keep it in stereo ?, or what if someone uses CrispyTuner on their song/mix and they are unaware of mono only support ?, and their song/mix is ruined because CrispyTuner forced it into mono, oh well no big deal.

CrispyTuner should be renamed to RadioTuner with Pitch Correction, because it would be a more accurate description of the plugin lol.

[jens]

We are musicians here. We create the music. We don't put effects like this on the master, but on our individual tracks instead. We made them, so we have access to them.

Putting an effect like this on a whole song makes absolutely ZERO sense - regardless of whether that song is mono or stereo, it CAN NOT work. It simply isn't made for this.

I think you simply stumbled into the wrong place of the internet, buddy. This isn't the kid's corner.

So please go and play somewhere else lad.

[jens]

Oh, and stop spamming me with PMs - I will delete them without reading them.

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edit: double post.

[fairlyclose]

We are musicians here. We create the music. We don't put effects like this on the master, but on our individual tracks instead. We made them, so we have access to them.

Putting an effect like this on a whole song makes absolutely ZERO sense - regardless of whether that song is mono or stereo, it CAN NOT work. It simply isn't made for this.

I think you simply stumbled into the wrong place of the internet, buddy. This isn't the kid's corner.

So please go and play somewhere else lad.

Clearly there are uses for using something like this on a stereo track, just you are too conventional and / or rigid in your thinking to think of them. I leave you to ponder this for your homework

[jens]

So what? - if you really have such esoteric requirements (for whatever reason, like I should give a rat's arse - chances are it's just a heap of bollocks anyway) you can certainly go to the length of putting one instance on each of both channels. Then you can independently tune to channels to your heart's desire. But no, let's pester the developer and everybody else with inane ramblings instead.

Crispy Tuner either way does the sane thing to do on a stereo channel - assuming the average pitch of both channels as the base pitch.

This thread has been derailed over absolutely nothing. I leave you to ponder this for your homework.

[Ploki]

if you dual-mic you need shit phase-coherent for example. Melodyne can do that

neither MAutopitch, Auburn graillon nor autotune access sum to mono either (dont know about phase coherence).

[Warped Effect]

So what? - if you really have such esoteric requirements (for whatever reason, like I should give a rat's arse - chances are it's just a heap of bollocks anyway) you can certainly go to the length of putting one instance on each of both channels. Then you can independently tune to channels to your heart's desire. But no, let's pester the developer and everybody else with inane ramblings instead.

Crispy Tuner either way does the sane thing to do on a stereo channel - assuming the average pitch of both channels as the base pitch.

This thread has been derailed over absolutely nothing. I leave you to ponder this for your homework.

Do you also use a single Mono Speaker & Mono Microphones ? lol, and mono only support would be fine, if CrispyTuner was a radio voice emulation plugin or an old telephone voice emulation plugin.

If stereo support doesn't make sense, then why do all of the other Real-Time AutoTune plugins on the market have stereo support ?, and we aren't in the early 2000's anymore buddy, but it seems like your mindset is stuck in the early 2000's.