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Trancer · Post by **Trancer** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:35 pm

Thank you very much for your response Moss.

I will do that

Thank you again for your involvement and the colossal job you do for us.

ozias_leduc · Post by **ozias_leduc** » Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:54 pm

moss wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:26 pm
ozias_leduc wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:38 am Hi there! I'm using Push 2 - is there a way to get the play button to behave the same as the space bar?

The manual says : "Play - Start/Stop playback. Double click to move play cursor to start of song. You can configure the behavior on stop in the preferences."

But when I press play twice - ie to stop and start again - it counts this as a double click unless I consciously go very slow. Is there a way to disable this behaviour ?
Changing the "Behavour on stop" setting to "Pause" should do the trick.

No I tried that - it still takes me back to zero when I stop and start again! I need to pause for about a second between clicks of the play button to prevent it from doing so - but I tend to go fast

sj1 · Post by **sj1** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:43 pm

moss wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:02 pm DrivenByMoss 12.3.2 is online!

[*]Launchpad

Fixed: Exiting birds-eye view did also toggle session flip.

Much appreciated. Confirmed working here. Thank you!!

sj1 · Post by **sj1** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:38 pm

Q - Is it possible to send Flexi a trigger from within Bitwig, i.e. via a note or CC message in a MIDI clip.

At the end of a follow chain, I want to stop all clips and stop the transport.

This was very direct to do via an external trigger (e.g. a button on my nanoKontrol2), but I'm not sure how to do it (or if it even can be done) in a predetermined/prerecorded way.

IOW, I want a composition to end at a specific time/point, reliably and w/o manual intervention being required.

Possible, or not possible?

moss · Post by **moss** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:18 pm

sj1 wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:38 pm Q - Is it possible to send Flexi a trigger from within Bitwig, i.e. via a note or CC message in a MIDI clip.

At the end of a follow chain, I want to stop all clips and stop the transport.

This was very direct to do via an external trigger (e.g. a button on my nanoKontrol2), but I'm not sure how to do it (or if it even can be done) in a predetermined/prerecorded way.

IOW, I want a composition to end at a specific time/point, reliably and w/o manual intervention being required.

Possible, or not possible?

Generic Flexi is not for scripting commands. So no.

sj1 · Post by **sj1** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:05 pm

Thanks!

sj1 · Post by **sj1** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:40 pm

Hi,

Re: DBM and the Novation Launchpads (Pro Mk3 in my case) -

Do I understand correctly that Custom Modes as might have been configured separately with the Novation Components app are not currently available when operating under DBM?

If yes, would it ever be technically possible for our separately created (via Novation Components) Custom Modes to be retained and available under DBM?

If technically possible, might this be considered worthy of implementing at a future point?

As a point of reference, here is a pic of a Custom Mode of mine that I would love to be able to retain and use with DBM/Bitwig:

SJ Custom Mode Diagram.jpg

This shows one example of the flexibility of the Novation Components app to design custom modes, so if might be possible to have those benefits rolled together with DBM, that would be fantastic!

sj1 · Post by **sj1** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:42 pm

Also, BTW, I learned from this video:

at the 6:00 mark how to enter the User Mode (via the Custom button) and then program it to make the pads act as 8 sliders for whatever continuous operation I want to map them to.

This is very nice! - but am I mistaken if I say that I don't see that information anywhere in the DBM 12.3.1 Manual (July 8, 2021)?

moss · Post by **moss** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:07 pm

sj1 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:40 pm Do I understand correctly that Custom Modes as might have been configured separately with the Novation Components app are not currently available when operating under DBM?

No, it is not supported. It is also not possible to switch the modes from the device, however it would be possible to e.g. add this to the settings but would also be a workflow show-stopper.

If you need such a specialised setup, you can still use the Generic Flexi with the Launchpads' hardware modes.

moss · Post by **moss** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:09 pm

sj1 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:42 pm Also, BTW, I learned from this video:

at the 6:00 mark how to enter the User Mode (via the Custom button) and then program it to make the pads act as 8 sliders for whatever continuous operation I want to map them to.

This is very nice! - but am I mistaken if I say that I don't see that information anywhere in the DBM 12.3.1 Manual (July 8, 2021)?

You are right, I only have the button combination to enter the mode in the manual. Will add some more text...

questionaire · Post by **questionaire** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:34 pm

questionaire wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:38 pm
moss wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:15 pm
questionaire wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:01 pm I'm using Novation SL MKIII keyboard. The monitor buttons do nothing. I would expect that pressing the monitor button would change the monitor state in a sequential way from auto/on/off. Is my assumption right?
I have the latest version script. 12.3.1
On the right hand side, press the up or down button to toggle to monitor/rec arm. The upper 8 buttons (lit in green) toggle now monitor between on/off. Note that this only works if an input is selected for the track.
That is the thing it does not work at my system. I use windows 10 and bitwig 4 beta 7, could it be that it does not work with version 4?

Please Juergen can you have an look onto this the functionality is really missing

sj1 · Post by **sj1** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:42 pm

moss wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:07 pm
sj1 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:40 pm Do I understand correctly that Custom Modes as might have been configured separately with the Novation Components app are not currently available when operating under DBM?
No, it is not supported. It is also not possible to switch the modes from the device, however it would be possible to e.g. add this to the settings but would also be a workflow show-stopper.

Thank you for your reply!

Let me see if I interpret this correctly. Are you saying that:

a) it would be technically possible to retain custom modes from Novation Components and access them via the Custom button, but at the cost of losing the current User mode (8-sliders) implementation

b) or conceivably the user could have a choice between a) or the current User mode, but it would be a non-live choice that would have to be made in the Settings and require an extension restart. This is what you mean by a "workflow show-stopper"?

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The suggestion"use the Generic Flexi with the Launchpads' hardware modes" means not running DBM at all, losing all it's other functionality, right?

sonicod · Post by **sonicod** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:51 pm

Hi Jürgen,

I just picked up an X Touch Universal Control Surface to work along-side my Push 1 in Bitwig and both work really well. Thank you!

For the mapping of specific buttons, is it possible for you to configure this at run-time from a JSON file? Would be nice if I could edit and change some of the selected function of specific buttons. Appreciate the nested more complex functionality may be difficult but assume the equivalent of a hotkey or control button press would be possible?

Thanks again.

Scott

moss · Post by **moss** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:34 am

questionaire wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:34 pm
questionaire wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:38 pm
moss wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:15 pm
questionaire wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:01 pm I'm using Novation SL MKIII keyboard. The monitor buttons do nothing. I would expect that pressing the monitor button would change the monitor state in a sequential way from auto/on/off. Is my assumption right?
I have the latest version script. 12.3.1
On the right hand side, press the up or down button to toggle to monitor/rec arm. The upper 8 buttons (lit in green) toggle now monitor between on/off. Note that this only works if an input is selected for the track.
That is the thing it does not work at my system. I use windows 10 and bitwig 4 beta 7, could it be that it does not work with version 4?
Please Juergen can you have an look onto this the functionality is really missing

Seems to be broken. I reported it to Bitwig.

moss · Post by **moss** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:45 am

sj1 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:42 pm Let me see if I interpret this correctly. Are you saying that:

a) it would be technically possible to retain custom modes from Novation Components and access them via the Custom button, but at the cost of losing the current User mode (8-sliders) implementation

b) or conceivably the user could have a choice between a) or the current User mode, but it would be a non-live choice that would have to be made in the Settings and require an extension restart. This is what you mean by a "workflow show-stopper"?

Let me try again: the Launchpad has different modes. The normal mode has the hardware sequencer and custom layouts. This mode does not fulfill my needs therefore I use the programming mode.
These modes can only be changed by sending programmatically a command to the device.
So, this would require to have a button in Bitwig to toggle the modes. This can only be in the settings. Furthermore, I would need to deactivate all functionality of the Launchpad implementation which would require a restart of the extension (to actually do nothing).
For the user this would mean if you want to use a custom mode you would need to open the settings change some things, close settings again. This is not usable in my opinion.

sj1 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:42 pm The suggestion"use the Generic Flexi with the Launchpads' hardware modes" means not running DBM at all, losing all it's other functionality, right?

Yes and no. Generic Flexi is also part of DBM so you still use DBM

What you would loose are all sequencers (but you can use the hardware sequencer instead). All other features like mixing, transport, etc. can all be mapped with Generic Flexi.

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