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swartzfeger wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:11 pmRight-clicking for stereo panning a la Ableton and Logic vs having to load dual pan or tool. Unless I'm missing something.
Out of curiosity - how often you need it? I never had to use it (I'm not against dual pans in the mixer, just asking).
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antic604 wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:54 pm
3.3.x and 4.0. Playback following was refined sometime in 3.x "era".
Nope! Set FOLLOW On and just click another clip (for just view in editor) in "later" arrange... FOLLOW will get off automatically.

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kukident-youth wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:03 am
antic604 wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:54 pm
3.3.x and 4.0. Playback following was refined sometime in 3.x "era".
Nope! Set FOLLOW On and just click another clip (for just view in editor) in "later" arrange... FOLLOW will get off automatically.
Write to support if it bothers you.
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antic604 wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:08 am
swartzfeger wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:11 pmRight-clicking for stereo panning a la Ableton and Logic vs having to load dual pan or tool. Unless I'm missing something.
Out of curiosity - how often you need it? I never had to use it (I'm not against dual pans in the mixer, just asking).
Fairly often but it isn't a deal breaker. Mostly for mono-ing bass or tightening/widening stereo image for subtle transitions. It's mostly convenience but dual pan/tool are definitely powerful enough in their own right.

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swartzfeger wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:52 pmFairly often but it isn't a deal breaker. Mostly for mono-ing bass or tightening/widening stereo image for subtle transitions. It's mostly convenience but dual pan/tool are definitely powerful enough in their own right.
That's also what Tool is for - the Width knob:

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Why is the application icon always broken on Win10? I always have to make the shortcuts manually, to have the icon. Anyone else having this issue? Also, *.bwproject association get's broken, sometimes. Why? :scared:

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anoise wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:11 am Why is the application icon always broken on Win10? I always have to make the shortcuts manually, to have the icon. Anyone else having this issue? Also, *.bwproject association get's broken, sometimes. Why? :scared:
That's just Microsoft, every time I install windows 10 Pro it behaves differently to how the last install works... My current install screws things up in ways I've never seen before. My last install was quite good. Also depends if you been trying out certain kinds of software. I've been looking for a cloud sync service to replace google backup and sync as its going away in Oct or Nov... Dropbox screwed up the registry, and left a 17gb folder I can't remove. Another left a drive listed in explorer which didn't exist... And so on... 90% windows 10 fault but then 10% shait software developers fault.

Not to mention win11 coming soon so they will start their updates to nerf win10 to include parts of that and to prep you for the upgrade. My nav bar icons were broken unless I moved it to either left, right or top of the screen for about 3 weeks, till another windows update. Icons would wrap from left outside of screen where time is, in a jumble.

Then a few more installs ago, the start menu was crashing constantly nothing installed, had to format and re-install before I even started using it. And another like yours where it wouldn't show any app icons, which was a cortana issue, they like to make every intertwined and co-dependent on eachother so you cant uninstall certain parts without breaking some kind of functionality

Classic Miscrosoft...

I would go Apple but I aint paying those prices for old hardware and software... But that's not as stable as everyone would like you to think either...

But I do dual boot Linux Ubuntu, but same again when packages get screwed up on that, don't try and fix it, just re-install it, if every daw & vst and adobe creative cloud worked (Natively without Wine, or any kind of wrapper/emulator) on linux ubuntu (or mint etc), windows would just be used for testing and gaming for me...
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Except on my PC it only happens to Bitwig, so, I would not say it's on MS this one. I sort of can understand the *.bwproject association, because every new version of "Bitwig Studio.exe" is in a different folder. There has to be a solution to this one and the Icon. It's probably an oversight/fault in Bitwig's installation...

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MegaPixel wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:39 amI would go Apple but I aint paying those prices for old hardware and software... But that's not as stable as everyone would like you to think either...
Yup... Apple stuff is expensive.

I follow one policy without fail. I never upgrade to the next OS version until about 6 months have passed. With that approach, it is indeed stable and reliable. In the past 7 years (using 2 MBP laptops and both still working fine) I have not had a single OS level issue. It just works every day, day after day without ever thinking about it. Basically invisible and never taking any of my mental attention which is what I want as I have no interest in computers as such, just the tasks I can do with them.

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pdxindy wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:11 pm Yup... Apple stuff is expensive.
I agree.

Sadly for me, I got databases, docker, programming ide's, tools etc etc etc all installed and often need updating or re-configuring in one way or another for each job. It's why I format and do fresh installs of win10 pro so often. Plays hell with licencing on a lot of the vsts, not to mention downloads with my absolutely shait internet connection... Last install took over 5 days to download NI's K12U, and many of the downloads were corrupted, had to get links from the via GDrive to download (3 weeks waiting for that email from support). Their installers are too dumb to stop an install and reverse it if anything fails or is corrupted.

Luckily mostly everything is backed up on an external WD 2TB Blue now, I just plug it in via a hotswap bay when I need to add/update things or re-install things.
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pdxindy wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:11 pm I follow one policy without fail. I never upgrade to the next OS version until about 6 months have passed. With that approach, it is indeed stable and reliable. In the past 7 years (using 2 MBP laptops and both still working fine) I have not had a single OS level issue. It just works every day, day after day without ever thinking about it. Basically invisible and never taking any of my mental attention which is what I want as I have no interest in computers as such, just the tasks I can do with them.
Windows 10 updates break the OS all by themselves often, and I'm sure MS nerf the OS just before releasing another one. I have to re enter my serial sometimes 3 times a day to get rid of the please activate windows message. Called MS they say nothing they can do about it, called who I bought (yes I bought it lol) from and they same thing... Next install I may just use the classic win10 pro crack to screw up its activation system.

Win11, I'm betting is going to be a real s***t show... Looks like a cross between OSX and a Chrome book / Android mobile. With popups and widgets everywhere... Hopefully this will make for a bigger push for software, drivers etc to make the move to linux ubuntu and mature.
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MegaPixel wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:34 pm
I agree.

Sadly for me, I got databases, docker, programming ide's, tools etc etc etc all installed and often need updating or re-configuring in one way or another for each job. It's why I format and do fresh installs of win10 pro so often.
Assuming I understand your meaning, I would then have 3 computers each setup for specific tasks to avoid that sort of thing.

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pdxindy wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:43 pm Assuming I understand your meaning, I would then have 3 computers each setup for specific tasks to avoid that sort of thing.
In my ideal world I would do:

Machine 1 (Audio production & Gaming):
  • Nvme 1TB boot - OS & Software & DAW data (songs) which are backed up to GDrive cloud (personal)
  • Nvme / SSD 2TB - VST install locations, Sample libraries & Midi
  • HD WD Black 4TB - Storage (installers, backup of Sample Library & backups of DAW data)
Software Installers & Sample libraries & presets would be backed up to external WD Blue 2TB.
This machine I would not need to re-format often, every 5 years I would replace the drives for new ones, so a format and OS & software re-install once every 5 years.


Machine 2 (work):
  • Nvme 1TB boot (Win10Pro) - OS & Software & GDrive cloud folder (work account)
  • SSD 1TB boot (Ubuntu) - OS & Software & GDrive cloud folder (work account)
  • Nvme / SSD 1TB - Work (Backed up via external HD & pCloud (main projects on github/gitlab & dockerhub)
  • HD WD Black 4TB - Storage, Resources, Software Installers etc
Work drive would be backed up to it's own external WD Blue 2TB HD also.
And again all drives would be swapped out every 5 years, boot drive formats and re-installs though would be a lot more common.

Why pCloud instead of Google Backup & Sync or Google Drive? It has .gitignore features and can sync any folder on any drive, so I don't have gigabytes of node_modules or vendor folders & files being synced to the cloud, but I can sync the creative files also which I can't do on github & gitlab as I would exceed their storage limits very quickly.


This would be my perfect world...

Well almost... If I had a google fiber as my ISP, instead of my shiitty ISP where I can only get 2mb download and 0.6mb upload ISP. (or in ISP terms 21 down, 3.9 up lol).
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24 bit FLAC files are played back in 16 bit. Put a bitmeter on the track and see it for yourself. If anyone else want's to report this bug, please do so.

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Only thing that really bugs me about WigBit really is it has the shaitest of shaitest piano rolls of all the DAWs... That I've tried anyway.

FLStudio being the best one IMO, then Studio One, then Cubase. Not really tried out ableton well enough to comment on its piano roll, but if I remember correctly it could do more and had more features also.

Studio One and Cubase have some great features, like randomise on progression/chord and chord suggestion (circle of chords thingy), which I really do like. But FLStudio's is very well done.
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