magog wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:59 am
I've tried both of these approaches. The problem I have with them (and with the arrangement features of all DAWs that I have tried) is that your sections have to line up exactly on bar lines. I don't have a single song where the verse or chorus begins and ends exactly on a bar devision. There are always pickup notes before the downbeat. There are always sounds or effects tails that extend a little bit into the next section.
Selection in DP is marker based, markers don't have to be on a measure.
You mean pressing "TM" for Marquee Tool and "TA" for Fade Tool? I actually really like that because it frees up other keys for commands.
I like one key tool selection, Apple took that away.
What I like about Logic's Folders - particularly for for song arrangement - is that all of the tracks inside all the folders refer to the same channel strips, so when you're mixing and automating you're mixing and automating all folders in the song at once. This doesn't work with DP's Chunks. Or maybe it does with the new set lists feature, I don't know.
The best and worst thing DP Chunks for song arrangement is each chunk is completely isolated from all other Chunks.
So you used DP a long time ago for sure then. I started off with hardware and with everything mostly done as MIDI I used the Song window with Chunks. Sounds like what you're trying to do. IMO what with VST AUs, etc. Chunks are a little too clunky for using the Song window that way, it has it's place mainly for film scoring these days IMO.
Chunks on the other hand can be used to drag in various verses, choruses, etc. into a song. I do this often, separate out the main parts of a song into their own Chunks then drag them into each other in a single sequence to rearrange the song etc.
haven't done any film scoring, but as near as I can tell, this is where DP Chunks really shine. Each cue can be in its own Chunk that is completely isolated from all other cues and can be tied to a particular SMPTE time. I have no idea how people manage their multiple cues in other DAWs but it sounds like it must be painful.
It probably is painful.
As far as Chunks, they shine for multiple mixes of the same song, mixdowns to audio files for mastering, extended versions, recording a bands 10 songs then mixing them, what would be ten projects is one, etc. etc. They definitely aren't only useful for film work.