Valhalla Shimmer.

VST, AU, etc. plug-in Virtual Effects discussion
KVRAF
2052 posts since 26 Jul, 2004

Post Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:01 am

Hello all.

I am just wondering, if there will be some sort of improvements to the shimmer thing, like some new features?

What would you like to be added to it?

KVRAF
3893 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder

Post Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:19 pm

I don't think it's had a major update for many years. It has pretty much all the features you'd need already though. There's plenty of good competition around these days - I often prefer the Shimmer mode in Kuassa's reverb "pedal", and it goes on sale for close to 10 bucks. It's not very tweakable but the base sound is lush and smooth, not grainy at all.

KVRer
7 posts since 14 Jun, 2021

Post Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:19 pm

classic wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:01 am
What would you like to be added to it?
ValhallaShimmer definitely has a its own characteristic - and pristine - sound, but I'd love to see some way to add dirt into the signal path. Maybe some deep exploration of different pitch shifting methods and textures, similar to the exploration of delay types and reverb models on the other Valhalla products.

KVRist
69 posts since 13 Jul, 2021

Post Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:37 pm

Would be a lot cooler if it were free. I cannot justify $50 for something I can make essentially with Delay and VVV. My 2 cents.

KVRer
23 posts since 18 Jul, 2021

Post Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:07 am

hoxclab wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:37 pm
Would be a lot cooler if it were free. I cannot justify $50 for something I can make essentially with Delay and VVV. My 2 cents.
did you mean to write delay here? did you mean pitch shifter?

also, to do the full monty, you need to be able to feed some of the shifted/delay/reverbed signal back into the input, which is not always straightforward in a daw.

KVRian
1084 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc

Post Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:15 am

Maybe a high quality mode as VShimmer sounds sometimes bit too grainy how its made now
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KVRAF
21107 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Post Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:21 am

hoxclab wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:37 pm
Would be a lot cooler if it were free. I cannot justify $50 for something I can make essentially with Delay and VVV. My 2 cents.
You would need a pitch-shifter - plus you need to (be able to) make the required routing.

KVRAF
5134 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:31 am

Don't have it anymore.
Too many competitors with advanced and comprehensive functionality:
Tritik Irid
Eventide ShimmerVerb
Audiority Polaris
etc

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KVRian
1233 posts since 30 Apr, 2004 from Louisville, KY

Post Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:16 am

MogwaiBoy wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:19 pm
I don't think it's had a major update for many years. It has pretty much all the features you'd need already though. There's plenty of good competition around these days - I often prefer the Shimmer mode in Kuassa's reverb "pedal", and it goes on sale for close to 10 bucks. It's not very tweakable but the base sound is lush and smooth, not grainy at all.
Kuassa’s EFEKTOR RV3604 REVERB is on sale at $12.50 at the moment, 50% off all their plugins.
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KVRAF
8573 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:19 am

martinjuenke wrote:
Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:31 am
Don't have it anymore.
Too many competitors with advanced and comprehensive functionality:
Tritik Irid
Eventide ShimmerVerb
Audiority Polaris
etc
ValhallaShimmer ran on an old framework that would make updating it difficult and could require a rewrite. And with so many competing options available now, it probably doesn't make sense to do so. When it was released, it was the only ShimmerVerb around.

That said, I much prefer ValhallaShimmer to the Eventide. Irid sounds great, but it's like a cleaner, hi-fi Shimmer, compared to Valhalla which is noisier and more chaotic sounding in a cool way. So it still holds up IMO.

KVRer
2 posts since 24 Apr, 2021

Post Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:13 am

legendCNCD wrote:
Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:15 am
Maybe a high quality mode as VShimmer sounds sometimes bit too grainy how its made now
High quality mode would be a nice addition.

KVRist
236 posts since 31 Dec, 2012

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:44 am

Recently went on the Shimmer hunt and ended up with Tritik Irid. I have always been a fan of all things Valhalla DSP (I have everything except Shimmer) and also love Eventide but after demoing Irid, I fell in love with the extra sound design features.

KVRAF
2293 posts since 1 Sep, 2016

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:12 am

I've demoed Irid a couple of times now and it has a very strong resonant and metallic tone almost like it's a convolution of a busted old spring reverb. Interesting as a sound design tool perhaps but definitely not something I'd reach for if I wanted those lush shimmery pads.

KVRAF
3314 posts since 2 Jul, 2005

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:20 pm

ohdoubleu wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:19 pm
classic wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:01 am
What would you like to be added to it?
ValhallaShimmer definitely has a its own characteristic - and pristine - sound, but I'd love to see some way to add dirt into the signal path. Maybe some deep exploration of different pitch shifting methods and textures, similar to the exploration of delay types and reverb models on the other Valhalla products.
This isn't the most useful suggestion, but if you have a host that can do feedback (Bitwig and reaper are the two easiest I know of) then creating a feedback path from the output back to the input of shimmer can make some awesome noises. I like using a frequency shifter in the feedback that is pushing the frequencies in the opposite direction of the onboard shifter. Adding another granular processor into the feedback can get real wacky too.

JJ
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KVRAF
2206 posts since 23 Dec, 2002

Post Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:50 pm

Don't be afraid to give xenoverb a go.. it has a shimmer verb built in and has the right parameters to dial it in , it also has a freeze function. I like it plenty and I am not starving for verbs.

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