Arturia V Collection 9. Predictions?

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KVRian

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608 posts since 13 May, 2015

Post Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:41 pm

I remember a survey from Arturia several years ago asking what people would like to see, but I can’t remember what synths were on the list to choose from.

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KVRian
1019 posts since 25 Sep, 2014 from Specific Northwest

Post Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:54 pm

I predict that it will be really big and bloated and take double the disk space.

KVRist
272 posts since 12 May, 2004

Post Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:48 pm

I stopped updating at version 6. Originally, I bought the individual Jupiter 8 and Prophet V units and eventually went for the V4 collection…updating up to V6. Here’s the thing about Arturia; they produce plug-ins based on a leap of faith totally relying upon on their well drawn skeuomorphic GUIs to convince users they are actually hearing authentic reproductions of the units they represent.

AdvancedFollower wrote:
It's all and well and good having 30+ instruments, but when half of them sound like SynthEdit synths from 2006, it does drag down the perceived value of the collection.
Couldn’t agree more. As to the updates to the Jupiter 8, it aint a Jupiter 8 without the Upper and Lower parts coupled to Split and Dual modes. They screwed this up out of the gate and here we are 3 versions later and they still avoided that key element regarding the way a real Jupiter 8 produces its sounds.

I got the Prophet V to substitute the real Prophet VS I own into a number of songs I wanted to produce strictly ITB. I can’t begin to tell tell you what a disappointment that one was. Anyone who thinks Arturia’s version sounds like the real unit should have his or her hearing checked. The Parameter scaling alone (as compared to actual Prophet VS parameter values) is an utter fail. And tying it to a bad interpretation of a Prophet 5 was, IMHO, a huge mistake. It made the GUI and library an absolute nightmare to use. Want an authentic sounding Prophet 5? Uhe’s Repro 5 is your answer.

So…I could care less what Arturia throws out for version 9 because I'm guessing it’s just going to be more of the same “Ooh and Ah GUI’s, with no thought into improving the actual sound or operation of too many of their earlier titles. I’m done throwing money at these guys.
On a number of Macs

KVRian
640 posts since 13 May, 2017 from Virginia

Post Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:23 pm

Kawaik5k and a 99 upgrade price for me. I'll express concern about accuracy of Arturias emulations, gripe about the price and upgrade anyway. Tal, uhe, or synapse audio will release a better version a month later and I'll buy that as well and fall into a depression about my spending habits.

KVRist
52 posts since 14 Nov, 2020

Post Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:05 pm

Weasel-Boy wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:48 pm
So…I could care less what Arturia throws out for version 9 because I'm guessing it’s just going to be more of the same “Ooh and Ah GUI’s, with no thought into improving the actual sound or operation of too many of their earlier titles. I’m done throwing money at these guys.
Well you care enough to write an excessively long and involved post about why the V collection is not for you instead of just ignoring the thread. I wonder why that is?

KVRist
272 posts since 12 May, 2004

Post Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:29 pm

tactile_coast wrote:
I wonder why that is?
I felt like it. Did I touch a nerve or something?
On a number of Macs

KVRAF
1722 posts since 6 Nov, 2006

Post Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:56 pm

Weasel-Boy wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:48 pm

So…I could care less
*couldn't care less. :D

KVRist
272 posts since 12 May, 2004

Post Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:16 pm

dayjob wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:56 pm
Weasel-Boy wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:48 pm

So…I could care less
*couldn't care less. :D
Really? That’s what you went after? The low hanging fruit of syntax? Here? In KVR? :dog:
On a number of Macs

KVRAF
1722 posts since 6 Nov, 2006

Post Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:35 pm

Weasel-Boy wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:16 pm
dayjob wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:56 pm
Weasel-Boy wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:48 pm

So…I could care less
*couldn't care less. :D
Really? That’s what you went after? The low hanging fruit of syntax? Here? In KVR? :dog:
you mean corrections aren't hilarious? :party:

i don't have any issue w/your opinions on arturia synths. they're yours to have.

KVRist
272 posts since 12 May, 2004

Post Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:46 pm

dayjob wrote:
you mean corrections aren't hilarious? :party:
Ok…that’s funny.
On a number of Macs

KVRian
518 posts since 28 Oct, 2014

Post Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:45 am

Weasel-Boy wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:48 pm
So…I could care less what Arturia throws out for version 9 because I'm guessing it’s just going to be more of the same “Ooh and Ah GUI’s, with no thought into improving the actual sound or operation of too many of their earlier titles. I’m done throwing money at these guys.
A tad harsh, perhaps. Plenty of the instruments are decent enough or better. The keyboard split thing on the J8 is an omission but you can set up any keyboard splits you like in Analog Lab.

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KVRian
1172 posts since 28 Jun, 2005

Post Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:07 am

Weasel-Boy wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:46 pm
dayjob wrote:
you mean corrections aren't hilarious? :party:
Ok…that’s funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw

KVRAF
2813 posts since 3 Mar, 2006

Post Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:08 pm

to get my buy in (I've been on the fence about buying the V collection for YEARS) I'd like to see microtuning and MPE as standard across the board and maybe a new analog/digital hybrid (SQ-80? PPG?). Some of the older synths could really use a redone GUI and maybe even DSP updates too (moog V and modular V, 2600 V, prophet V, CS80V...)

KVRAF
4836 posts since 6 May, 2002

Post Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:17 pm

Weasel-Boy wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:48 pm
I stopped updating at version 6. Originally, I bought the individual Jupiter 8 and Prophet V units and eventually went for the V4 collection…updating up to V6.
V6 has Synclavier, the crown jewel of their V Collection. What Arturia needs to do for a Version 9 is give that Matrix 12 the V3 overhaul treatment with .syx Import/Export. Its the only Matrix 12 emulation unlike Prophet V, Juno, Jupiter, Oberheim.
Intel Core2 Quad CPU + 4 GIG RAM

KVRAF
4836 posts since 6 May, 2002

Post Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:24 pm

Weasel-Boy wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:48 pm

I got the Prophet V to substitute the real Prophet VS I own into a number of songs I wanted to produce strictly ITB. I can’t begin to tell tell you what a disappointment that one was. Anyone who thinks Arturia’s version sounds like the real unit should have his or her hearing checked. The Parameter scaling alone (as compared to actual Prophet VS parameter values) is an utter fail. And tying it to a bad interpretation of a Prophet 5 was, IMHO, a huge mistake. It made the GUI and library an absolute nightmare to use. Want an authentic sounding Prophet 5? Uhe’s Repro 5 is your answer.
The VS is a good idea to overhaul for V9 but they need to leave the Prophet V alone. U-he already nailed it.
Intel Core2 Quad CPU + 4 GIG RAM

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