DUNE 3 is now available!!

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KVRAF
15777 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:18 am

cytospur wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:35 am
Here's a way to do keyboard splits using a wavetable slot in Osc2.
That's brilliant! :tu: :hail:

Here's a Unison Saw on the bottom and Square on the top split at C:
MH KBD Split Tek 01.zip

Then turn Arp 1 on for Voice 1 and notice that at the second C on D3's on gui keyboard it stops playing the octave. Any idea what's going on there? :)

I can see this split technique being very useful! I've been asking for keyboard splits for a very long time and the response always seemed to be it's not possible because of D3's architecture.

Imagine being able to set the key range for each voice layer. As one example that would turn D3 into an 8 slot drum machine and so on.....
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KVRAF
9841 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:46 am

lucienz wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:32 am

Au chapitre des défauts:

• Dans les presets MSGS les formes simples de bases: Sinus ... etc.
what about them?

KVRian
1418 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:08 am

Teksonik wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:18 am
cytospur wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:35 am
Here's a way to do keyboard splits using a wavetable slot in Osc2.
That's brilliant! :tu: :hail:

Here's a Unison Saw on the bottom and Square on the top split at C:

MH KBD Split Tek 01.zip


Then turn Arp 1 on for Voice 1 and notice that at the second C on D3's on gui keyboard it stops playing the octave. Any idea what's going on there? :)

I can see this split technique being very useful! I've been asking for keyboard splits for a very long time and the response always seemed to be it's not possible because of D3's architecture.

Imagine being able to set the key range for each voice layer. As one example that would turn D3 into an 8 slot drum machine and so on.....
It's something I've been thinking about for a while, partly because of you. Sorry that it took me a while to come up with :oops:

I already have an idea for doing a mapped drum machine. Give me a while!
Wavetables for DUNE2/3, Blofeld, IL Harmor, Hive and Serum etc: http://charlesdickens.neocities.org/
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.

Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt

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KVRAF
15777 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:12 am

"In terms of faults:

• In the MSGS presets the simple basic shapes: Sine ... etc".

I don't know how well google translate did in conveying his question but there are certainly more presets for the MSEGs than "simple sine etc"....

D3 072721-2.png
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KVRAF
15777 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:17 am

cytospur wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:08 am
It's something I've been thinking about for a while, partly because of you. Sorry that it took me a while to come up with :oops:

I already have an idea for doing a mapped drum machine. Give me a while!
Hey I'm super impressed with what you've done so thanks for your efforts. It's not something I would have ever been able to come up with..... :tu:

I'm not sure if Rich is just being resistant to the idea of voice layer key ranges as found in other synths or if there really are limitations in the architecture that prevents them but your work does prove it's possible. :)
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KVRist
37 posts since 20 Sep, 2010 from Paris

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:22 am

Désolé si je ne parle pas anglais ..... heureusement on a le traducteur pour lire.

J'ai testé OrgueB3 + Bass, cela ne fonctionne pas... j'ai un son affreux qui décline.
L'aftertouch coupe le son !
En attendant de mon Motif XS maitre, j' ai envoyé sur 2 canaux midi, ce qui me permet de splitter directement du Motif XS.
Et je lance 2 instances de Dune 3.
Plus compliqué pour les faders ... pour qu'ils soit sur la bonne instance.
Car malheureusement, le mapping Midi de Dune est dans la base de registres et il est donc unique.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Synapse Audio\DUNE 3] en "m1="
Teksonik wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:18 am
I can see this split technique being very useful! I've been asking for keyboard splits for a very long time and the response always seemed to be it's not possible because of D3's architecture.
Ca me parait indépendant du moteur et pas si compliqué:
En Mod Matrix:
- Source=Voix x ON, Destination = Keyboard Note, AMT = Note Number
- Source=Voix x OFF, Destination = Keyboard Note, AMT = Note Number.


En attendant je suis très intéressé par votre technique et pour la peaufiner pourriez vous m'expliquer le principe ?

KVRian
1418 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:32 am

Say we wanted the split to be at note 32 and there are 128 notes, so we calculate 32/128, which is 0.25.

We know that the y parameter runs from 0-to-1 in steps of 1/n, where n is equal to the number of slots minus 1, so 16 slots would differ by 1/15 per slot. The first four of those slots would be less than 0.25, whilst the others would be above 0.25. If we subtract this range from the constant that we defined, i.e. 32/128, then the first four of these slots will be greater than zero, i.e., positive numbers, and the rest will be less than zero, i.e., negative numbers. The thing that we do next is to take the sign of these numbers so that we have +1 or -1. We use +1 and -1 to modulate the volume appropriately.

The patch works perfectly fine here, although I'm not using aftertouch here atm, my aftertouch keyboard is elsewhere.
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KVRist
37 posts since 20 Sep, 2010 from Paris

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:03 am

Super, explication claire, j'ai compris... la théorie.
Il me reste à l'appliquer à partir de vos patchs.
Je vais tenter de comprendre pourquoi cela joue sur l'aftertouch.

KVRist
37 posts since 20 Sep, 2010 from Paris

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:05 am

Teksonik wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:12 am
"In terms of faults:

• In the MSGS presets the simple basic shapes: Sine ... etc".

I don't know how well google translate did in conveying his question but there are certainly more presets for the MSEGs than "simple sine etc"....


D3 072721-2.png
Je n'y ai pas trouvé de sinus pour créer mon Vibrato, mais ce n'est pas grave, je l'ai dessinée.
Le dessin n'est pas parfait mais cela ne s'entend pas.

KVRian
1418 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:06 am

I'll try to work out the aftertouch issue as well. It's probably a voice assignment issue.
Wavetables for DUNE2/3, Blofeld, IL Harmor, Hive and Serum etc: http://charlesdickens.neocities.org/
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.

Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt

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KVRAF
9841 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:13 am

why does it keep switching from french/English?

KVRian
1418 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:15 am

One person speaks only French, the others English. Oh and the American dude :hihi:
Wavetables for DUNE2/3, Blofeld, IL Harmor, Hive and Serum etc: http://charlesdickens.neocities.org/
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.

Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt

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KVRAF
9841 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:17 am

ok, so you want a simple sine for vibrato.....

use an lfo

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KVRAF
9841 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:18 am

cytospur wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:15 am
One person speaks only French, the others English. Oh and the American dude :hihi:

but the text is French, then switches to English, then back to French...


dunno if its the browser or my phone... never happened before

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KVRAF
9841 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:19 am

double

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