Do you program all of your sounds from scratch?

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addled muppet weed
82562 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:54 am

im innocent guv!!! :cry:

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KVRian
598 posts since 17 Aug, 2015 from Finland

Post Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:18 am

Always.

Okay, sometimes.
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KVRAF
2691 posts since 20 Mar, 2012 from Babbleon

Post Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:33 am

no. not yet. it's time consuming.

got my hands full programming melodies and lyrics.
and bass part and drum part and guitar and synth parts.
trying to, at least.
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KVRian
685 posts since 9 Aug, 2018

Post Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:59 am

Almost entirely, yes.

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KVRian
1211 posts since 21 Apr, 2017 from Bahia, Brazil

Post Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:12 am

I did a full album where I made every sound from scratch including all electronic drums. I will never do that again. It was fun and I learned a great deal. It is definitely a workflow killer.

Here is my approach now. When in inspirational mode, I dial up a preset. I usually start from banks I have done myself. Then move to a synth with a good browser.

When I am not particularly inspired to lay down tracks. I do sound design to build the previously mentioned banks. Some times this leads to inspiration. It never happens the other way around where being inspired to lay down a track leads to great sound design....usually results in stalll.
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KVRist
167 posts since 29 Sep, 2012 from Minneapolis, MN

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:02 pm

ARNK wrote:
Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:10 pm
Do ya?
I used to try to never use a preset back in the days I was using a Yamaha workstation, although they had a pretty good Japanese drum preset I used once. Now, I realize very few will ever make anything like what I do anyway so I am not so strict. But I do love making new preset sounds in my Prologue.

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GRRRRRRR!
12334 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:12 pm

I discovered something quite interesting last night, after installing Dead Duck's Deducktion synth. It doesn't come with any presets so instead of spending half the evening wading through other people's sounds, I was forced to make some of my own. I surprised myself because it didn't feel like a chore at all. I had quite a good time doing it, something I would never say about going through a bank of presets. It felt so liberating to make some patches because it didn't have any and I reckon I learned a lot more about this synth in that couple of hours than I would have with some other synth full of presets.
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KVRAF
1626 posts since 11 Jun, 2005 from Phoenix, Arizona

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:31 pm

I'm about 70/30 on this. 70% of the time I find/tweak a preset. But there a couple of times I start from scratch. One, if I have an idea in my head and I think I can dial it in quickly without losing the idea, iykwim. The second is very long ambient/soundscape presets. I usually take direction from a preset then clear it all out and start over trying to get the nuanced difference into my song. With that said, it's no big deal really to me whether its a preset or not in the song.

And I do have sessions that I sit aside just for sound design. I just don't let using a preset slow me down if what's in my head is a song. I grab my guitar or bass or synth w/preset and get to it.

KVRist
59 posts since 17 Oct, 2020

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:50 pm

Hardware synths - yes, always. Software - rarely.

KVRist
172 posts since 13 Jul, 2021

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:27 pm

Depends what I am working on.

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GRRRRRRR!
12334 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:10 pm

Azbest wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:50 pm
Hardware synths - yes, always. Software - rarely.
I'm the opposite - hardware is usually a real chore to patch, whereas softysnths are generally much easier. In fact, I do most of my hardware patching using a software editor for the instrument and instruments without a hardware editor usually don't last long in my set-up.
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KVRAF
9841 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:50 pm

if you're patching hardware with a software editor, you may as well just use software

fact

KVRist
296 posts since 26 Jul, 2018 from Germany

Post Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:56 am

ARNK wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:47 pm
Rastkovic wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:07 pm
ARNK wrote:
Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:10 pm
Do ya?
No, I use the Init preset.... :)

Of course, I love doing sounds.
;) nobody’s ever done that, an entire Track of INIT
Well, as a starting point of course. :)

Sometimes I listen to presets, to see, what other people can do with this synth. But I almost never use them to make music. Not because my sounds are super outstanding, it's just not my way of working.

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KVRian
700 posts since 4 Feb, 2021

Post Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:06 am

AnX wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:50 pm
if you're patching hardware with a software editor, you may as well just use software

fact
Why? What if I like the particular hardware sound better than any software alternative?
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KVRAF
9841 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:14 am

TribeOfHǫfuð wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:06 am
AnX wrote:
Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:50 pm
if you're patching hardware with a software editor, you may as well just use software

fact
Why? What if I like the particular hardware sound better than any software alternative?
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