Did you consider Urs and all the U-He team, to once conceive a DAW ?
Being among the best coder and UI conceptor around, i'm persuaded you might be able to create a very competitive one ?
what do you think ?
What about a DAW ?
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- KVRAF
- 6504 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
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- KVRAF
- 5383 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
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- KVRAF
- 3303 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
Not sure they could handle it may unhinge the current business plan they have a lock on in the frame of thinhs... Sorry bored work what else 
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- KVRAF
- 3303 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
Not sure they could handle the entry, it may unhinge the current business plan they have a lock on in the frame of things... Sorry bored work what else
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6504 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
well l ... good question
I was mainly thinking of a DAW like Logic Pro, in where instruments and effets might be included natively and might eventually interact within their host flawlessly
as addons eventually ?
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- KVRAF
- 1524 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8
I love Ferrari so much
Now, if only Ferrari built streets too, that'd surely be totally awesome too!
A bit more seriously though:
This wouldn't help anyone, as u-he is still a pretty small team and building a complete DAW that could even halfway catch up to the established competition would bring developments of a Zebra 3, u-he modular, u-he drum synths, MFM3, etc. to a halt
And other develeopers that are more or less concentrating 100% on DAW development like Steinberg, Ableton, Bitwig and even smaller ones like Renoise aren't totally stupid either, so chances are quite good that there are already good DAWs out there somewhere which will not affect the development and continuation of plugins
Now, if only Ferrari built streets too, that'd surely be totally awesome too!
A bit more seriously though:
This wouldn't help anyone, as u-he is still a pretty small team and building a complete DAW that could even halfway catch up to the established competition would bring developments of a Zebra 3, u-he modular, u-he drum synths, MFM3, etc. to a halt
And other develeopers that are more or less concentrating 100% on DAW development like Steinberg, Ableton, Bitwig and even smaller ones like Renoise aren't totally stupid either, so chances are quite good that there are already good DAWs out there somewhere which will not affect the development and continuation of plugins
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The GAS is always greener on the other side!
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- u-he
- 30215 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
We actually had hired a freelance developer once to build us one based on JUCE, but the project died in radio silence. It would have been more of an OP-1 than a Bitwig Studio, but yeah, as we say: Hätte, hätte, Fahrradkette.
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- u-he
- 30215 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
A mini-DAW would be awesome to have btw. We could offer demo content for our plug-ins, in which our plug-ins work without demo limitations. It could offer guided tours through our stuff, and tutorials.
Most of all, it could offer cool means / workflows for sound designers, and every feature of our plug-ins would "just work" and not be suppressed, such as full alphanumerical keyboard control.
Most of all, it could offer cool means / workflows for sound designers, and every feature of our plug-ins would "just work" and not be suppressed, such as full alphanumerical keyboard control.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6504 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
I'd say to be fair that what fabfilter said is true, a bit harshly said but true...Urs wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:31 am We actually had hired a freelance developer once to build us one based on JUCE, but the project died in radio silence. It would have been more of an OP-1 than a Bitwig Studio, but yeah, as we say: Hätte, hätte, Fahrradkette.
i'm just just an empassionate amateur not aware enough of the survival constraint of your professions
Perhaps once the time will come...
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- KVRian
- 1198 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
All you really need is plugin hosting, unlimited audio and midi tracks with audio editing capabilities and you are good. Most DAWs are extremely bloated anyway. If you strip away everything in Ableton for instance, using just 3rd party plugins, you essentially get a pretty focused DAW with great audio editing capability. How much time is spent on developing instruments and effects for DAWs anyway? I dont know, I would assume a lot of time is spent on just that. You already have plugins, creating a simple environment might be really nice for you.Urs wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:35 am A mini-DAW would be awesome to have btw. We could offer demo content for our plug-ins, in which our plug-ins work without demo limitations. It could offer guided tours through our stuff, and tutorials.
Most of all, it could offer cool means / workflows for sound designers, and every feature of our plug-ins would "just work" and not be suppressed, such as full alphanumerical keyboard control.
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- KVRAF
- 3496 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
Maybe Richard of Synapse could give his abandoned DAW Orion to Urs.
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- KVRAF
- 3496 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
Ooops wrong thread..
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- KVRAF
- 2911 posts since 3 Mar, 2006
an OP-1-ish minidaw from U-he does sound positively delightful, especially if it still can play nice with a "big" daw somehow (whether that's just easy drag and drop of clips or itself loading as a plugin in other daws or whatever I dunno)
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- KVRist
- 84 posts since 13 Jul, 2015
I'd love to see it myself. A simple vsthost app would be awesome. Sort of like, well, vsthost: https://www.hermannseib.com/english/vsthost.htmA mini-DAW would be awesome to have btw
It would be a great tool for doing sound design I think. (Got to have a Linux version tho')
Cheers.
“I'd far rather be happy than right any day.” ~ Arthur Dent, Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
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- KVRAF
- 9572 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
I guess for that purpose it could just be a Midi (2.0) sequencer whiteout any editing but the ability to load midi files. As plugin it would even have a market, as there is no plugin in this world that would just load midi files and play them. (Except for some overblown (for that simple purpose) DAWs which can be loaded as plugin)… The standalone then could load U-He plugins unrestricted without external Midi in…Urs wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:35 am A mini-DAW would be awesome to have btw. We could offer demo content for our plug-ins, in which our plug-ins work without demo limitations. It could offer guided tours through our stuff, and tutorials.
Most of all, it could offer cool means / workflows for sound designers, and every feature of our plug-ins would "just work" and not be suppressed, such as full alphanumerical keyboard control.