KVR Audio

excuse me please · Post by **excuse me please** » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:46 pm

Weird... never run into this trouble with Synth1

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:10 am

How do you get the preset packs for $20?

Says minimum 20 but goes in at 40 for me.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:23 am

e@rs wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:11 pm I have the latest version of Spire 1.5 installed and today I opened an older Renoise project that had an instance of Spire 1.1 among other things. If I remember correctly, when opening older Studio One projects, the DAW automatically replaced all 1.1 instances with 1.5, but in Renoise I get an error message saying the plugin can't be found. Is the automatic replacement the correct behavior?

Version 1.5 isn't supposed to replace version 1.1. IIRC, you can install then side by side.

phreaque · Post by **phreaque** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:33 am

LeVzi wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:10 am How do you get the preset packs for $20?

Says minimum 20 but goes in at 40 for me.

Usually there are occasional discount offers reaching %50

Plus, there is store credit bonus points whenever a purchase is made, those points can be then used to reduce prices even further.

e@rs · Post by **e@rs** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:03 pm

chk071 wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:23 am Version 1.5 isn't supposed to replace version 1.1. IIRC, you can install then side by side.

Do you have both versions installed?

I think I have to go back and read this thread's posts about 1.5 release...

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:11 pm

e@rs wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:03 pm
chk071 wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:23 am Version 1.5 isn't supposed to replace version 1.1. IIRC, you can install then side by side.
Do you have both versions installed?

Nope. I stopped using version 1.1 since the 1.5 update, which cut the CPU use in half or 1/3. I remember a support topic on Reveal Sound's website though, explaining why v1.5 doesn't replace v1.1. There was a major code change which optimized the synth in terms of CPU usage, and they weren't sure about potential sound changes, IIRC.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:12 pm

e@rs wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:03 pm
chk071 wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:23 am Version 1.5 isn't supposed to replace version 1.1. IIRC, you can install then side by side.
Do you have both versions installed?

I do, they are separate dlls. I keep the 1.1. for compatibility with old projects/DAW presets etc

e@rs · Post by **e@rs** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:29 pm

Yet vega555 said on page 219: Important note: It is not recommended to use versions 1.1 and 1.5 at the same time.

e@rs · Post by **e@rs** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:32 pm

chk071 wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:11 pm I stopped using version 1.1 since the 1.5 update, which cut the CPU use in half or 1/3. I remember a support topic on Reveal Sound's website though, explaining why v1.5 doesn't replace v1.1. There was a major code change which optimized the synth in terms of CPU usage, and they weren't sure about potential sound changes, IIRC.

Your memory sux, mate! It was 1.1 that cut the CPU usage of 1.0.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:35 pm

e@rs wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:29 pm Yet vega555 said on page 219: Important note: It is not recommended to use versions 1.1 and 1.5 at the same time.

Idk, I don't remember having any issues with that. I'm pretty sure I must have both in my current projects - I load the old one when I need to use my presets and "musicloops" I have saved inside Studio One.

Good to know though, I wasn't aware of that it was not recommended

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:39 pm

e@rs wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:32 pm Your memory sux, mate!

Thanks bro!

Anyway, I just took a look, and, v1.5 has the same plugin ID as v1.1, so, I really don't know why it won't replace v1.1.

The one which did NOT replace the next version was version 1.0.x. For the reasons I stated.

e@rs · Post by **e@rs** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:44 pm

^My pleasure!

Makes sense to replace it automatically if it's the same plugin ID, and as I said Studio One did it, but Renoise didn't...

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:47 pm

You actually said that you remember that Studio One did it.

Probably something wrong with Renoise then.

e@rs · Post by **e@rs** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:04 pm

Most probably. I will install the older 1.1 version, save the preset and load it in the newer version. It's only an instance after all.

Norqa · Post by **Norqa** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:25 pm

In Ableton the situation is apparently even worse.
You will not be greeted by a friendly warning and will end up with loads of unnamed instances of Spire called unknown.

Spire Synthesizer