Charlie Watts Dies at 80 (1941-2021)

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sympathy is my fave, was my fave to play in covers bands too.
not very well, admittedly, but you could get away with stones tracks being rough around the edges. do that with the beatles and everyone would point out where you messed up

wore the solos on the end of that on get yer ya yas out on no less than a dozen albums dropping the needle near the start of them...can still hear every note in my head...even that girls voice at the begiining of the song paint it black you devil...sympathy live is better too...actually almost everything by the stones live...we use to buy bootleg live albums in the backroom of a shoestore in Waltham Mass in the 70's, one started with an interview by dick cavett of mick jagger actually asking if he could still see himself doing this at 60 (pretty sure that's the one released live at brussels) stones had a lot of bootleg live albums back then...of course I have ladies and gentlemen on dvd

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pib was pretty cool too, but so long as they slowed it down a bit i could keep up

left the solos to chris (a far superior guitarist in every way) or in the other covers band to the keyboard player, liz.

[Bombadil]

When I started playing, my best friend and I would do a lot of the Stones' early stuff because it was easy enough to do it recognizeably. I remember my first fast-ish solo I could do was the one on Heart of Stone. Brian (my friend) could do a really good prancing Jagger, and I would hack away at keef's riffs. Never got the concept of alternate tuning in the early days, which made it impossible to get a lot of stuff right.
When I did regularly bike, Get Yer Ya Yas Out was one of my regulars on my mp3 player.
I could do some of Charlie's early stuff, like Get Off My Cloud, and I could do Honkey Tonk Women on drums. I even could not play the hi-hat when I hit the snare, just like Charlie. I still have some old 'live jam' tapes from the 70's with us butchering the Beatles and the Stones. Will never see the light of day while I breathe....
Very sad, Brian's end. The Stones basically washed their hands of him. By many accounts, he was a dick, but still.

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Thing that's really annoying thing about Ladies and Gentlemen, is the lack of Mick Taylor. The camera is rarely on him doing his thing. He has such easy fluidity in his playing. I have it too on DVD. Still love watching them do Sweet Virginia, which may be my fave song on Exile. It's either that or Rocks Off.

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and I could do Honkey Tonk Women on drums.

Needs more cowbell...ah hold on..

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RIP Charlie.

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I had the GYYO Sympathy solos down at around 17. Could probably do a recognizeable job of it now off the top of my head. Don't think I'll get the feedback on the 2nd note, the E.

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Thing that's really annoying thing about Ladies and Gentlemen, is the lack of Mick Taylor. The camera is rarely on him doing his thing. He has such easy fluidity in his playing. I have it too on DVD. Still love watching them do Sweet Virginia, which may be my fave song on Exile. It's either that or Rocks Off.

I was in jr high when that came out, me and my best friend went to the first showing of the day and sat through every showing. We were total sponges, it wasnt just about seeing them, the gear, what they were playing, how they worked the songs into a live performance...the one that stuck with me the most was midnight rambler and mj on his knees slamming the stage during that bridge part...of course I did that singing to the song in my livingroom for years

gyyo was the first solos I learned, 12, 13 I also love that love in vain

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Yeah, I could do that with a beer bottle! Taylor was great at slide in regular tuning!

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When I started playing, my best friend and I

Because of CW passing I feel bad about something so I will vent for a sec about something I rarely talk about...the one I called my half brother, really my best friend growing up but in high school he moved in with us.

We learned guitar together but he started drumming, first song I heard him play was honky tonk (he is the one that had the lucite dan armstrong and the transperformance years later) no surprise when I say these words...this man is the ultimate Gibson fan and even bigger zep fan...I feel bad because I know he is hurting right now, I have not spoke with him or seen him since 2001 (wow twenty years)...when I bought my tele in tx, I called him, hadnt spoke in a year...I was so excited...he bought a new guitar...I got a tele...he did...mine was a custom...his was...mine was a 72...so was his...mine was black, just like keiths...so was is...they less than 50 serial numbers apart, he bought his used in nh and mine I bought used in tx

Growing up I didnt know what gaslighting was, he was the ultimate gaslighter...he kept me very insecure about my guitar playing until I went off in the service and played with real people, I came back and got in bands...wanted him with me but they didnt want him...he is an amazing guitar player but...and I couldnt see the but until years later

I had our childhood dreams you know? He didnt party, he judged me on that and used that as well against me (though he built up a million dollar contracting business, lost his house his wifes house, the entire business all because all he bought was toys, blew his money). I quit everything in 93, in 95 had my accident and in 98 actually went to work for him in his home improvement business.

That's when I learned what he had been doing to me, holding his friendship out like a carrot...he use to only call when he got a new guitar or gear knowing I didnt have much money. In 83 he had Gibson build him the clone of what Page used to record Stairway...cost him close to 2000 then (see how he blew his business), he of course has a Jimmy Page sig model and the Transperformance was ungawdly just for the retrofit, the Les Paul and the paint job was not cheap.

How did he treat me? One day I finally said. "look, I need some cash dude...anything"...he hadnt paid me...you see he was doing me a favor after my accident He went to the ATM got ten bux and gave it to me, I of course never lifted a finger for him again, he still owes me a lot of money but it's the best investment ever as I have only seen him once since.

I was working at Daddy's Junky Music in Nashua NH, came back from lunch and saw his truck out front. I walked up behind him, surprised him...he was playing a Dan Electro...the stratish one, he wanted it for his son...he was all "hey John, how yah been"...didnt notice my employee badge...we started talking about the guitar and I asked if he was gonna buy it...jealousy flashed all over him...I had the job we dreamt of as kids...that exact store

We took it to the counter and he pulled out his checkbook, I literally in front of employees and customers burst out laughing..."you think I'm gonna take a check from you?" I pointed to the ATM...he got cash, we exchanged phone numbers...he called me, I told him I would make sure someone told him when I was dead and to f**k right off (actually I told him if my oldest brass prick arrived in the mail I was dead)...ftr he knows nothing that I know of of me being in Maine or losing Denise, Denise met him once and hated him.

His favorite stones song "Time Waits for No One"...ftr I have never heard any person (including the cover band china white) sound more like Page than him or the stones, this man Plays Brown Sugar just like on SF (every part, he dissected it)...he studied Page, he studied all the tunings of Zep, the stones and more (you should hear him play the rain song) he knows every tuning inside out and upside down (hence the transperformance guitar), he is the one that convinced me to try alternate tunings...it's the only thing besides getting out of my life he ever did for me.

There I feel much better now

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I was going to ask you: and how does that make you feel?
I have a 'being used' radar now. For mind games, whatever. I usually just turn around these days and say: not my circus, not my monkeys. Friends gone bad. Or, friendships based upon false assumptions. Like, actually being friends. Took me a long time to figure out, and be at peace with it.
Can't You Hear Me Knocking is probably my fave Taylor solo. It's like Santana if were to compare it with anyone else's style. And yes, Time Waits For No One was his swan song, and a beautiful solo. Best song on that album, imo.

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believe it or not one of my favorite taylor songs to play is dance little sister

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I remember I had this Alamo El Dorado electric guitar with strings so high my mom used it as a cloths line and an old tube amp taken from a ham radio with an 8" speaker in an old crate...I couldn't figure out how to get the hard sound. Then one day I took my radioshack 8-track cartridge recorder up to my parents stereo to plug my guitar into it (one of those 60's console jobs, tubes, loud as hell)...I pinged the vu's...and discovered what I called then the hendrix sound

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I assumed he was much older that 80.