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pdxindy wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:37 am
SmajjL wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:20 am The DAW got Timestretch and was a big deal for me, and the Sampler got nice upgrades that is Nicerella, but does that hint that adding Timestretch for Sampler-playback is maby a Tad complicated or something, and all this is a hint? because they have been around it, hmm :)
My guess is it would mainly be a big CPU hit... realtime timestretch of an audio clip while also running it with textures or cycles mode and modulating the speed and so on. But that is just a guess.
Kontakt and TAL Sampler is (sounds) good enough for me and easy enough on the CPU and, Live have a sampler for this, but when you mention all the extra Bitwig-complexity.. hmm.. maby if they do as with EQ+, just make a new one with this feature and see what they can build ontop of that.
I think the DAW stretching is not the same they give to Samplers, i think.. 8)
And if you were to ask, "ok, would The Grid also have this?" i'm scared now :ud: :)

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SmajjL wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:44 am
Kontakt and TAL Sampler is (sounds) good enough for me and easy enough on the CPU and, Live have a sampler for this, but when you mention all the extra Bitwig-complexity.. hmm.. maby if they do as with EQ+, just make a new one with this feature and see what they can build ontop of that.
I think the DAW stretching is not the same they give to Samplers, i think.. 8)
And if you were to ask, "ok, would The Grid also have this?" i'm scared now :ud: :)
At this point I am pretty used to stretching a clip on the timeline and then dropping it into Sampler. But I certainly don't mind if they add the option to Sampler! :)

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This is definitely not a a Bitwig specific issue (and it's going to strike many as being in the realm of a "luddite concern"), but do you know what drives me crazy?

The lack of printed, bound manuals. You know, like "books" (that one doesn't have to print out on one's own and put in a notebook cover). And hopefully, "well-written".

Remember them? You could take notes in them and lay them out in front of you as you looked at your DAW. Support people could very quickly refer you to a given page in them if you contacted them with a question.

I know that they are gone forever (and I know this is not really what the OP intended in his original question), but I still miss them, sometimes deeply. :cry:
“Madness, as you know, is like gravity: all it takes is a little push.”

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BWS has a great Help built in and between that, videos, KVR and the PDF manual we are pretty much covered and never mind the amazing advantage of the PDF manual search function, I don’t miss the printed one.

Btw, with super affordable new printers’s ink I can print the most valuable section of the manual.
Reason - Reaktor

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dlandis wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:23 pm This is definitely not a a Bitwig specific issue (and it's going to strike many as being in the realm of a "luddite concern"), but do you know what drives me crazy?

The lack of printed, bound manuals. You know, like "books" (that one doesn't have to print out on one's own and put in a notebook cover). And hopefully, "well-written".
The thing about printed manuals, they are from a time when sh*t didn't change so fast. So I take todays latest PDF manuals and print them out double sided and I have a machine that punches all the holes and binds them with those little plastic binders with like 20 rings.

I do that for hardware and some software. I find the information sticks better in my brain when I read it from a printed manual.

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pdxindy wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:18 pmThe thing about printed manuals, they are from a time when sh*t didn't change so fast.
That’s another hard fact that printed material is mostly outdated by the time ships and arrives to destination AND we finish to RTFM :D
Reason - Reaktor

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When recording audio in a loop when it goes back to the beginning to record over and you hit stop you cannot delete the recorded section in the beginning without deleting the whole clip. In Live you record and then hit ctrl-z and it cuts off from the end of the loop selection.

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hoxclab wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:17 pm When recording audio in a loop when it goes back to the beginning to record over and you hit stop you cannot delete the recorded section in the beginning without deleting the whole clip. In Live you record and then hit ctrl-z and it cuts off from the end of the loop selection.
Wouldn't turning the new comping feature on eliminate this issue?

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mholloway wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:15 pm
hoxclab wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:17 pm When recording audio in a loop when it goes back to the beginning to record over and you hit stop you cannot delete the recorded section in the beginning without deleting the whole clip. In Live you record and then hit ctrl-z and it cuts off from the end of the loop selection.
Wouldn't turning the new comping feature on eliminate this issue?
Bit more cumbersome. I guess I should say that an easy way to cut before the first comp should be a thing.

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hoxclab wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:17 pm When recording audio in a loop when it goes back to the beginning to record over and you hit stop you cannot delete the recorded section in the beginning without deleting the whole clip. In Live you record and then hit ctrl-z and it cuts off from the end of the loop selection.
In the Play menu, there is the option to set the Post Recording Action. For example, set it to 4 bars and STOP and then it records 4 bars and stops recording. There are a number of useful options.

I do wish there were keyboard shortcuts (currently none)

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pdxindy wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:44 am
hoxclab wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:17 pm When recording audio in a loop when it goes back to the beginning to record over and you hit stop you cannot delete the recorded section in the beginning without deleting the whole clip. In Live you record and then hit ctrl-z and it cuts off from the end of the loop selection.
In the Play menu, there is the option to set the Post Recording Action. For example, set it to 4 bars and STOP and then it records 4 bars and stops recording. There are a number of useful options.

I do wish there were keyboard shortcuts (currently none)
Thanks for the info!

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pdxindy wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:03 am
SmajjL wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:44 am
Kontakt and TAL Sampler is (sounds) good enough for me and easy enough on the CPU and, Live have a sampler for this, but when you mention all the extra Bitwig-complexity.. hmm.. maby if they do as with EQ+, just make a new one with this feature and see what they can build ontop of that.
I think the DAW stretching is not the same they give to Samplers, i think.. 8)
And if you were to ask, "ok, would The Grid also have this?" i'm scared now :ud: :)
At this point I am pretty used to stretching a clip on the timeline and then dropping it into Sampler. But I certainly don't mind if they add the option to Sampler! :)
I wish they would show the envelope in the sampler, some extra functions would be good also.

Perhaps they could add a simple pop up audio editor that could be used for clips, samples from the pool etc, that would allow some basic editing, stretching etc.

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_leras wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:09 pm
I wish they would show the envelope in the sampler, some extra functions would be good also.
What extra functions would you like?

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pdxindy wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:06 pm
_leras wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:09 pm
I wish they would show the envelope in the sampler, some extra functions would be good also.
What extra functions would you like?
Mainly I use the sampler for one hit percussive sounds, so for me more envelope choices, ideally where I can change the curve of each stage for more control, would probably be enough. If it could show the envelope curve, and better still the new shape of the sample even better.

Maybe a dedicated filter envelope (though I realise that's possible with some modulation)

Beyond that, it'd be things that are really more 'editing' things like your timestretch suggestion.. snap to zero option for start, end, loop etc. Normalise. Bit rate reduction perhaps.

Probably a bunch of stuff that already exists and I just don't know how to access it! :hihi:

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_leras wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:07 pm Mainly I use the sampler for one hit percussive sounds, so for me more envelope choices, ideally where I can change the curve of each stage for more control, would probably be enough. If it could show the envelope curve, and better still the new shape of the sample even better.

Maybe a dedicated filter envelope (though I realise that's possible with some modulation)

Beyond that, it'd be things that are really more 'editing' things like your timestretch suggestion.. snap to zero option for start, end, loop etc. Normalise. Bit rate reduction perhaps.

Probably a bunch of stuff that already exists and I just don't know how to access it! :hihi:
Some good suggestions!

You can change the curve of the A, D and R stages of the Amp envelope.

But basically, when I want more control of the Sampler, I use it in the Grid.

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