This is the method I’m partial to as well.farlukar wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:08 am… or just use an installation script, like reaper doesBlaster wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:28 pmThere's options like https://flatpak.org/ and https://snapcraft.io/audiojunkie wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:55 pm So, the problem comes down to this: How to build an application for multiple Linux distributions from a single source--especially for commercial and closed source developers.
The linux DAW thread
- KVRAF
- 7019 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
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(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- 7019 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
In response to a thread that has sadly been derailed and is now going completely off topic, I'm responding here, and directing those who are interested in continuing the Linux conversation to here. I will respond to their queries here.
Original thread (being derailed by Linux discussions):
viewtopic.php?p=8194941#p8194941
Post I'm responding to:
Here's an example of a nice top of the line audio interface that is supported by Linux:
MOTU 112D Audio Interface
Here's a cheaper one:
MOTU UltraLite AVB Audio Interface
Here's a site with a list of some of the supported audio interfaces and further information and details about what to look for:
https://www.alsa-project.org/wiki/Main_Page (Main page--Everything here is useful)
https://www.alsa-project.org/wiki/Matrix:Main (The actual list)
What is the specific make/model/generation of your audio interface that you are having a problem with? I bet we can figure out what is going on and possibly resolve your problem very easily. It may simply be that the kernel you were using when you tried to use Linux was just not new enough.
Also, there are several great resources where you can get help or ask questions. One is this thread at KVR.
Another is:
https://linuxmusicians.com/
Another great resource is:
https://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/start
A lot of times, when people are getting their feet wet with Linux, they just don't know where to start. That's why these resources are available.
If you use Reaper, an excellent resource can be found here:
https://forum.cockos.com/forumdisplay.php?f=52
If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask them. Everyone here is friendly and willing to help!
Best,
Sean
Original thread (being derailed by Linux discussions):
viewtopic.php?p=8194941#p8194941
Post I'm responding to:
Linux doesn't do drivers the way Windows does. Drivers are mostly stored in the kernel or as loadable modules for that kernel. The newer the kernel, the more likely you are to have drivers that work on new hardware. As I mentioned in the other thread, most true class compliant USB audio interfaces will work, right out of the box. The easiest way to look for devices that are likely to work with Linux (when the manufacturers don't publicly announce support for Linux), is to either look for a list of supported devices, tested and known to work, or to look for devices that support iOS (iphones and ipads). The reason I mention that iOS supported devices are a good option, is that Apple is so strict with iOS device support, that in order for a device to work properly on iOS, the device must adhere very closely to the specs that define class compliancy.crickey13 wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:32 pmI would love to hook up my audio interface to a Linux OS, which is more important than a keyboard or a mouse, however, Focusrite doesn't offer drivers for Linux AFAIK. Quite a few companies offered drivers for Linux-based devices back in the day, in the early 2010s, now it's only a handful of them. Is this really a simple case of plug-n-play in the case of audio interfaces too? From what I've read, setting up an audio interface on a Linux OS is a pain in the butt, but whatever.audiojunkie wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:34 pm If you choose compatible equipment for your OS, you won't have any more problems than with any other OS. Full Stop.
Here's an example of a nice top of the line audio interface that is supported by Linux:
MOTU 112D Audio Interface
Here's a cheaper one:
MOTU UltraLite AVB Audio Interface
Here's a site with a list of some of the supported audio interfaces and further information and details about what to look for:
https://www.alsa-project.org/wiki/Main_Page (Main page--Everything here is useful)
https://www.alsa-project.org/wiki/Matrix:Main (The actual list)
What is the specific make/model/generation of your audio interface that you are having a problem with? I bet we can figure out what is going on and possibly resolve your problem very easily. It may simply be that the kernel you were using when you tried to use Linux was just not new enough.
Also, there are several great resources where you can get help or ask questions. One is this thread at KVR.
Another is:
https://linuxmusicians.com/
Another great resource is:
https://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/start
A lot of times, when people are getting their feet wet with Linux, they just don't know where to start. That's why these resources are available.
If you use Reaper, an excellent resource can be found here:
https://forum.cockos.com/forumdisplay.php?f=52
If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask them. Everyone here is friendly and willing to help!
Best,
Sean
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- 7019 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Here are some other useful links for Linux Audio Interface information:
https://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/hardware_support
https://github.com/lpil/linux-audio-int ... /README.md
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Professional_audio
https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Sound-HOWTO/x96.html
I hope this helps!
https://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/hardware_support
https://github.com/lpil/linux-audio-int ... /README.md
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Professional_audio
https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Sound-HOWTO/x96.html
I hope this helps!
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRAF
- 9521 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Good to have quality links that can reduce old thought patternsaudiojunkie wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:05 pm In response to a thread that has sadly been derailed and is now going completely off topic,
based on ancient mis-information. Yes, the kvr 'Star Wars bar scene' can emerge in many topics. Maybe a forum called 'The parking lot' would be popular?
- KVRAF
- 7019 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Hey everyone, I'm doing some research again for another project. This time, could you list what you consider to be the top commercial Linux-native plugin companies (instruments and/or effects)? Please rank them in order, starting with what you consider to be the absolute best commercial Linux plugin company. Please consider sound quality, reliability, company/product longevity, distro/product packaging support (ie install script for universal distro support, multiple distro binaries, single distro binary support, etc.), technical support (quality of communication, timeliness, speed of bug fixes, etc. Consider what makes you like a particular Linux Native plugin company the best, and then rank the companies below. Please try to rank at least five companies--ten or more would be best. Thank you!
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- GRRRRRRR!
- 17699 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Why would anyone bother? The list of supported devices will undoubtedly be shorter than the list of unsupported devices for Windows.audiojunkie wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:05 pmThe easiest way to look for devices that are likely to work with Linux (when the manufacturers don't publicly announce support for Linux), is to either look for a list of supported devices, tested and known to work, or to look for devices that support iOS (iphones and ipads).
Yes, by installing Windows.I bet we can figure out what is going on and possibly resolve your problem very easily.
Or you can just install Windows.Also, there are several great resources where you can get help or ask questions.
Or you can just install Windows and not need to ask any questions.If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask them. Everyone here is friendly and willing to help!
What ancient misinformation? Does Studio One work on Linux? Do any of the plugins listed in my signature? Will my Roli Blocks have all the same functionality under Linux that they do with Windows?glokraw wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:51 pmGood to have quality links that can reduce old thought patterns based on ancient mis-information. Yes, the kvr 'Star Wars bar scene' can emerge in many topics. Maybe a forum called 'The parking lot' would be popular?
Is there even a Window Manager that works like Start in Windows 10? I have 73 icons pinned to Start, all neatly categorised and arranged, in both size and position, so that they are all easy to find. Is there a Linux window manager that can do all that?
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
- KVRAF
- 7019 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
You have established that windows is for you. Comments like this one in a Linux thread is just trolling Linux users.BONES wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:33 amWhy would anyone bother? The list of supported devices will undoubtedly be shorter than the list of unsupported devices for Windows.audiojunkie wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:05 pmThe easiest way to look for devices that are likely to work with Linux (when the manufacturers don't publicly announce support for Linux), is to either look for a list of supported devices, tested and known to work, or to look for devices that support iOS (iphones and ipads).Yes, by installing Windows.I bet we can figure out what is going on and possibly resolve your problem very easily.Or you can just install Windows.Also, there are several great resources where you can get help or ask questions.Or you can just install Windows and not need to ask any questions.If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask them. Everyone here is friendly and willing to help!What ancient misinformation? Does Studio One work on Linux? Do any of the plugins listed in my signature? Will my Roli Blocks have all the same functionality under Linux that they do with Windows?glokraw wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:51 pmGood to have quality links that can reduce old thought patterns based on ancient mis-information. Yes, the kvr 'Star Wars bar scene' can emerge in many topics. Maybe a forum called 'The parking lot' would be popular?
Is there even a Window Manager that works like Start in Windows 10? I have 73 icons pinned to Start, all neatly categorised and arranged, in both size and position, so that they are all easy to find. Is there a Linux window manager that can do all that?
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- 17699 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Well you're the one that moved the "discussion" here, not me. obviously if you had an answer, you'd give it. Do you even know what a window manager is?
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
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- 17699 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
I think you mean Bill "saves millions of lives in Africa every year through his philanthropy" Gates.
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
- KVRAF
- 7019 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Nope. Not at all.BONES wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:53 am Well you're the one that moved the "discussion" here, not me. obviously if you had an answer, you'd give it. Do you even know what a window manager is?
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRian
- 1261 posts since 6 Jun, 2016
Yes, it's called Nuroerotic, by Prism Break.BONES wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:33 am Is there even a Window Manager that works like Start in Windows 10? I have 73 icons pinned to Start, all neatly categorised and arranged, in both size and position, so that they are all easy to find. Is there a Linux window manager that can do all that?
It's sooo customizable! It'll give you tantrum shocks
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- 17699 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Nothing shows up when I search, which I'm sure is part of a global conspiracy, and there is nothing on the Prism Break site, which looks like a place for the tin-foil hat brigade to hang out.
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
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- KVRian
- 657 posts since 12 Mar, 2013 from Vladivostok
BONES wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:33 am Is there even a Window Manager that works like Start in Windows 10? I have 73 icons pinned to Start, all neatly categorised and arranged, in both size and position, so that they are all easy to find. Is there a Linux window manager that can do all that?
what it looks like?I have 73 icons pinned to Start