Best granular VST ?

[Kalamata Kid]

that is why like Granurise, i have also a touchscreen, and Granurise is made for touchscreen (or has a great touchscreen mode... the developer focus is on the touchscreen, and roli blocks...).

As for Vectorspace as far as I know Reaktor and Kontakt are not multi-touch capable.

[WasteLand]

that is why like Granurise, i have also a touchscreen, and Granurise is made for touchscreen (or has a great touchscreen mode... the developer focus is on the touchscreen, and roli blocks...).

As for Vectorspace as far as I know Reaktor and Kontakt are not multi-touch capable.

one finger can be enough... some vst plugins, that aren't made for touchscreen, or implemented stuff.., for it, still can respond quite well.

Reaktor can, but not multi-touch indeed...

o well there is always the mouse.... it is sometimes touch and go...

[Kalamata Kid]

^^^
Yes, one finger is better than no finger touch.

[WasteLand]

^^^
Yes, one finger is better than no finger touch.

i try to stalk developers, especially the ones that use JUCE, to implement in a good way. like Unfiltered Audio, but they can't test it...
Arturia does a good job, only patching cables in arp and modular and buchla isn't great, or even. well.

but they have interest to do it, like UA, but it isn't a priority.

sadly.

a touchscreen, gives me, with an obssesive tactile disorder, the feeling to really work with an instrument, not all have the same experience.

well. Granurise and Spacecraft are designed for touchscreen, Pigments 3 is JUCE, reacts good. so...

but still. perhaps, one day? it isn't thát difficult...

[killmaster]

^^^
Yes, one finger is better than no finger touch.

i try to stalk developers, especially the ones that use JUCE, to implement in a good way. like Unfiltered Audio, but they can't test it...
Arturia does a good job, only patching cables in arp and modular and buchla isn't great, or even. well.

but they have interest to do it, like UA, but it isn't a priority.

sadly.

a touchscreen, gives me, with an obssesive tactile disorder, the feeling to really work with an instrument, not all have the same experience.

well. Granurise and Spacecraft are designed for touchscreen, Pigments 3 is JUCE, reacts good. so...

but still. perhaps, one day? it isn't thát difficult...

Granurise looks great and I may give it a try one day. Thanks for the mention! I really like that it's MPE. I was thinking a good obstruction to help me limit the glut of instruments I've been accumulating would be to just consider devices that implement MPE.

[Kalamata Kid]

a touchscreen, gives me, with an obssesive tactile disorder, the feeling to really work with an instrument, not all have the same experience.

well. Granurise and Spacecraft are designed for touchscreen, Pigments 3 is JUCE, reacts good. so...

Wasteland,

If you have this issue please chime in, in this thread.
Multi-touch finger touch and mouse pointer incompatibility! Weird!
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=490574&hilit=multi+touch

[WasteLand]

^^^
Yes, one finger is better than no finger touch.

i try to stalk developers, especially the ones that use JUCE, to implement in a good way. like Unfiltered Audio, but they can't test it...
Arturia does a good job, only patching cables in arp and modular and buchla isn't great, or even. well.

but they have interest to do it, like UA, but it isn't a priority.

sadly.

a touchscreen, gives me, with an obssesive tactile disorder, the feeling to really work with an instrument, not all have the same experience.

well. Granurise and Spacecraft are designed for touchscreen, Pigments 3 is JUCE, reacts good. so...

but still. perhaps, one day? it isn't thát difficult...

Granurise looks great and I may give it a try one day. Thanks for the mention! I really like that it's MPE. I was thinking a good obstruction to help me limit the glut of instruments I've been accumulating would be to just consider devices that implement MPE.

i had forgotten to mention it has indeed MPE! which is of course great. and i almost also limit myself to MPE capable synths nowadays. with exceptions, but less and less..
Reaktor can do MPE, strangely, or not strangely... (like kontakt can, with scripting..)

i use MPE a lot, i have mastered it in my own way, and the expressiveness has quite a bandwidth..
(although Roli Seabord block + 2 lightpad M blocks, some see it as my first sony. well... perhaps it is quite personal, i can get a lot out of it, all i want, exceeds expectations. it isn't a linnstrument, but still. and the lightpad M blocks, you play them differently, in MPE mode, which gives other results with the same patches.)

Granurise looks great and ís great. very reactive developer. and himself an artist, so....
it works also with the lightpad M blocks... for gestures... but after i bought i touchscreen, i use, well...

a touchscreen, gives me, with an obssesive tactile disorder, the feeling to really work with an instrument, not all have the same experience.

well. Granurise and Spacecraft are designed for touchscreen, Pigments 3 is JUCE, reacts good. so...

Wasteland,

If you have this issue please chime in, in this thread.
Multi-touch finger touch and mouse pointer incompatibility! Weird!
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=490574&hilit=multi+touch

will do! perhaps a thread, to call developers to implement it, it ain't rocket science, especially with JUCE. and even no JUCE, enough libs, for the events. o well, first things first, gonna play with Granurise, played with other granulars last week, it is Granurise time!

[Neon Breath]

Blinksonic Cataliz Reaktor granular ensemble also has the record gesture feature.

https://www.blinksonic.com/portfolio/cataliz/

[morphex]

Blinksonic make fantastic Reaktor Ensembles!! I've also been using the new granular OSC in Krotos Audio's new Concept 2 synth recently and I still enjoy the quick workflow and modulation capabilities there.

[killmaster]

Blinksonic make fantastic Reaktor Ensembles!! I've also been using the new granular OSC in Krotos Audio's new Concept 2 synth recently and I still enjoy the quick workflow and modulation capabilities there.

Omg, I have this one too and completely forgot about it! WTH?

[simmo75]

How good is Granurise with musical tempo syncing of loops?

NM, I bought it

[WasteLand]

How good is Granurise with musical tempo syncing of loops?

NM, I bought it

welcome to Granurise

as already mentioned the developer is very repsonsive, and very open to suggestions. and very friendly.

i use Granurise only standalone, not yet as a M4L device, mainly, that is the only gripe, it can't save it's state. which in a way, i like now, it is performance instrument. i use crusher-x in that way to, by the way, when i use it standalone, but it can save state crusher-x..

i have asked about this, and it is in the works, is that the expression. it seems quite an undertaking.

because i only use it standalone, i never thought about tempo syncing.

it has many many features, but gestures, recording them, morphing states of gestures, snap-shots, is a big part of, or thé part of working with Granurise.

it is in the nature of gestures, that they are 'free', but a gesture can certainly be tempo synced, more after-the-fact?

or perhaps it is already there.

but the main thing is: great idea.

i put in several threads info, and showcases (well in my own REALLY WEIRD style, to use a part of a name of a FB art group), about Granurise. when i find something that is not that known, and i really like it, i.e. it gives me pleasure, great results, how more i work with it, how bigger the bandwidth.. i tend to give extra attention.

well. enough.

there are several threads about granulars, which contain quite some info, and i guess, people who are into granular, know those threads and/or bookmarked them..

and in the Live 11 thread, a lot of M4L devices can be found, also granular, or spectral-granular..

at another forum, a dutch forum, i try to keep up with all what i can find.

o well..

one remark, not particular to this thread; i miss on KVR, although in some threads, you get some insights; there is a sounddesign forum... but that is for, how to make this sound.
well sounddesign means in 'this' world, many things it seems. perhaps there can be better term, or the term is still right.

what do i mean; i read a lot, experiment a lot, will all kind of synthesis, mainly granular, of course, but also additive, spectral, well everything that is interesting.. and all sub-domains... and branches...

there is no forum to talk about synthesis, i am no expert, but also no noob, and it seems that i can get quite far. but still i have stupid questions, and complex questions... i don't mind to learn, on the contrary, i am still learning... and that gives me a lot, a lot.

i already worked with granulars, but really discovered the possibilies, by a book by Rolf Kasten, In the World of Grains - Volume 1. a great in-depth introduction and more...
a book that gives you the basics, in-depth, and to use that kind of information in your own way, it does not give you specific direction, but the basics and more, to really master granulars.

the book had also the effect; that i bought a lot of granulars, or a lot... still... and crusher-x, and granurise, for example, also quanta, and some quite interesting M4L devices. even The Mangle...

https://dev.rofilm-media.net/

there is an offer now, if you buy his latest e-book, you get also the book about granular.
you can see it on the right. when you scroll..

this is a direct link, to the description of the book;

https://dev.rofilm-media.net/node/138

(and this is also, something i like to do, Rolf Kasten has the tutorials about Crusher-X, still exploring them... also about Softube Modular, and many other things. how he works, explains, in-depth, it lets you see how things work, it doesn't drive you into certain genres or sounds.
to give some attention to his work. he has quite some experience and knowledge.
and is also very friendly, gives great answers, and he is funny..)

well. enough. again..

a TL;DR with a lot of info, but a granular vst, well mostly i use spectral/additive sources for it...
therefore my interest also in hybrid solutions, as made by Dillon Bastan (i always write his name wrong, i hope it is right now..), M4L device.

but a long for me info, sparring partners, and ask my stupid questions...

[simmo75]

Awesome Wasteland!
Thanks for your info, I’ll check the books and I’m looking forward to learning Granurise.

I’m finding a little confusing tbh, do you know how to play the notes on a midi keyboard?

[WasteLand]

Awesome Wasteland!
Thanks for your info, I’ll check the books and I’m looking forward to learning Granurise.

I’m finding a little confusing tbh, do you know how to play the notes on a midi keyboard?

i don't remember, i did use it with MPE, but at some point, i only used the gestures/snapshots...

there is help button in Granurise, the vid's explain a lot. i must also sometimes look up things.

this reminds me to use MPE again with Granurise, and why it slipped my mind...

strange how you can be sometimes be so focused, but it means that there is a lot to discover. or that Granurise gives a lot approaches...

but strange that i can reproduce it.... o well..

and it isn't straightforward keyboard/Granurise, if you look at vid's it is... in Crusher-X it is more easy... or perhaps i am not used to it, again, because, the gestures i like so much..

or ask the dev, he explains things quite well, when i had questions in the beginning, but perhaps i like to know this too... not via a vid...

[egbert101]

Can't remember if it's been mentioned but listened to GrainSpace by Audiority the makers of the Polaris reverb, and it sounds pretty nice and reverby (it acts like a reverb effect). Anyway, technically an effect but it sounds nice and seems decent value if you need granular. It doesn't have any flashy display though.

https://www.audiority.com/shop/grainspace/