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chk071 wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:06 pm
vanerio wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:51 pm Dude, you need some emotional control
... says the guy who rants publicly about a software, instead of taking his concerns to the person who actually could do something about it: The developer. ;)

This will lead nowhere.
You little boy, fortunately the developer is very nice and we have kindly talked about it.
I will repeat it again, my case is not againts the developer, my intention was just to talk with you guys about licenses that limit the legit user.

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vanerio wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:10 pm You little boy
"The clouds parted, and much was revealed". ;)

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Hey buddy, I am not against you. What is the problem with you? Have I been disrespectful to you? What need do you have to feel superior? Can you stop it?

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vanerio wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:17 pm Have I been disrespectful to you?
No. You just called me a little boy, got defensive when someone doesn't share your opinion, and so on.

Don't worry though, I'll leave now. Better things to do with my time really.

And I'm not your "buddy", BTW.

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chk071 wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:19 pm
vanerio wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:17 pm Have I been disrespectful to you?
No. You just called me a little boy, got defensive when someone doesn't share your opinion, and so on.

Don't worry though, I'll leave now. Better things to do with my time really.

And I'm not your "buddy", BTW.
I am surprised. Here we use the expression boy when we talk nicely with our friends. My intentions were not bad, chk071.

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If they limit the number of activations they should provide a way to de-activate. I hate it when devs miss that.

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vanerio wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:55 am My criticisms and concerns are only directed at the licensing, not only
of this company, but in general.
Regardless of your particular problem, I would like to express
a few thoughts on software protection mechanisms in general:

The problem with copy protection mechanisms is that they
severely restrict the user. :(

On the other hand, however, the copy protection mechanisms
are apparently the only way for most software developers to
protect their software - and to generate continuous income
through the distribution and work on the software. Copy
protection mechanisms seem to be indispensable. They are
available in different levels: with and without a dongle, with
constant or intermittent Internet feedback, with activation and
deactivation restrictions, etc. But there is also rarely the simple
keyfile activation, which is then valid forever.

From the point of view of the producer and musician, there
are two fundamental problems with the stringent copy
protection mechanisms:

1. When buying or downloading, the user is often not sure
how exactly the copy protection works.

2. In the long run - after approx. 10 years - with many
copy protection systems there is no longer any possibility
of activating the software on a new system.

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Problem (1) is currently often annoying and disruptive during
installation. Once the software or plug-in works, everything is
fine again.

Problem (2) is particularly annoying, because if you want to
rearrange an earlier project based on a customer request, it
is often no longer possible. That shouldn't really happen.

That is why I advocate that as a user and musician, complicated
copying mechanisms should be ignored and that one should
concentrate on simple one-time activation software and freeware.
Because you can also work very professionally and super
good with conventional one-time activation software and with -
listen and be amazed: Freeware! All you need is a little more
patience and will.

I think that for a good, sustainable studio in which all project
files should still be functional even after years, this, the last-
mentioned, the solid, right way is. :tu:
free mp3s + info: andy-enroe.de songs + weird stuff: enroe.de

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I think you are right. I like to support products that seems to be future proof.
Unfortunately, free products have a high risk of becoming abandonware. It sometimes happens with paid software too: ArtsAcoustic, Virus TI integration, etc...

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Those ridiculous limitations are useless as their software is cracked anyway. Very often even professional studios are using cracked version of software they bought because it's simply easier to install and use. Seriously, devs with an obsession that everyone is a cracker really deserve that fate.

This is a one solution, another is to choose devs which doesn't have stupid restrictions and convoluted additional software to "protect" them from a customer who bought their product.

Oh there's also option c: buy hardware. So far I didn't got caught on buying a hardware which producer of prevented me from moving it from one room or house to another :D But who knows, maybe soon we will have situation where you can plug audio/midi cables only once to your newly bought synth. When you'll want to re-plug you'll have to buy new one 🄓

Ps. there's no such a thing like "future proof" in software world.

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Well, hardware has its cons too, for example, Mac users can not use certain Novation hardware anymore. Companies that do not update their drivers anymore so hardware becomes unusable. Or there are some companies that do not sell spare parts or fix any issues 🄓. But yes, hardware does not have any license limitation to this day.

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vanerio wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:27 am Well, hardware has its cons too, for example, Mac users can not use certain Novation hardware anymore. Companies that do not update their drivers anymore so hardware becomes unusable. Or there are some companies that do not sell spare parts or fix any issues 🄓. But yes, hardware does not have any license limitation to this day.
I meant hardware that doesn't require a computer to work ;) When hardware requires a computer to work then it has the same disadvantages as software, yes.

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vanerio wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:24 pm
chk071 wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:19 pm
vanerio wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:17 pm Have I been disrespectful to you?
No. You just called me a little boy, got defensive when someone doesn't share your opinion, and so on.

Don't worry though, I'll leave now. Better things to do with my time really.

And I'm not your "buddy", BTW.
I am surprised. Here we use the expression boy when we talk nicely with our friends. My intentions were not bad, chk071.
oh give me a break, calling a grown man a little boy? Thats how you talk nicely with your friends? No need to answer that, you cant...Here we use the expression boy when we talk nicely with our friends.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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