Using Room EQ Wizard results with Meldaproduction Plugins
- KVRAF
- 2483 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
Hi Melda,
just reading about Room EQ Wizard, http://www.roomeqwizard.com/. Is there any way to use the results of the room analysis done with Room EQ Wizard (REW) in any of your Plugins in order to apply the necessary corrections?
On way could be to export EQ settings from REW and import them in one of your EQ Plugins. REW is able to export in text file format, like is described here https://www.minidsp.com/applications/di ... rew-autoeq
A second way could be using your MMultibandConvolution - I have watched a video on youtube where a guy uses a different convolution plugin. Here's the video
Has anybody ever tried to use REW output and do Room Corrections with Melda Plugins?
Cheers
] Peter:H [
just reading about Room EQ Wizard, http://www.roomeqwizard.com/. Is there any way to use the results of the room analysis done with Room EQ Wizard (REW) in any of your Plugins in order to apply the necessary corrections?
On way could be to export EQ settings from REW and import them in one of your EQ Plugins. REW is able to export in text file format, like is described here https://www.minidsp.com/applications/di ... rew-autoeq
A second way could be using your MMultibandConvolution - I have watched a video on youtube where a guy uses a different convolution plugin. Here's the video
Has anybody ever tried to use REW output and do Room Corrections with Melda Plugins?
Cheers
] Peter:H [
- KVRAF
- 2702 posts since 9 Jul, 2015 from UK
Hello. I have done this yes, and its super easy. I didn't use REW but Sonarworks. They correct headphones and speakers to have flatter frequencies. I downloaded the demo, selected my headphone model (KRK KNS8400) and it sounded great. So I put an MConvolution before and after the plugin. Opened up the advanced settings panel on both convolutions and set the instance after the plugin to record and the instance before the plugin to test tone. Then stop recording and you will get an IR of the plugin. Remember to set the dry/wet to 100% wet. Now try and A/B the plugin with your new IR. I couldn't hear a difference. So I saved it as a preset in MConvolution and deleted the demo. Happy days.
Jason @ Melda Production
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- KVRist
- 206 posts since 17 Mar, 2013
You can also do it with MFreeformEq with not 1:1 precision (can be audibly identical, but on the other hand an IR on is exactly what you made) but you'll be able to edit the result whenever you want afterwards, could even just use the measurement directly (but I'll take it that REW does some magic underneath, so better use that).
Since you're going to run it at all times you'll have to clean up the result manually by reducing the amount of points not to introduce unnecessary resonance/phase changes.
That said, setting up a convolution will be much faster.
Since you're going to run it at all times you'll have to clean up the result manually by reducing the amount of points not to introduce unnecessary resonance/phase changes.
That said, setting up a convolution will be much faster.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2483 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
@jmg8 - Thx for the reply...unsing a trial version as intended
Is the mic coming with the Sonarworks trial version the same quality than the Mic in the full version?
I mean 49 Euro seems quite cheap for a mic that is required to meet some standards...
Is the mic coming with the Sonarworks trial version the same quality than the Mic in the full version?
I mean 49 Euro seems quite cheap for a mic that is required to meet some standards...
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- KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
I must say, I personally own ARC II, and tried Sonarworks, but I cannot say I didn't get reasonable results with any of them, so I essentially stopped using it completely. I think you can try what pone suggests: get a decent mike, as flat as possible, use MNoiseGenerator to produce white noise (or pink, not sure which would work best) and just use the automatic equalization in MFreeformEqualizer (no smoothness probably). That way you can also make it minimum phase or linear phase at your will. Not sure how well it will perform, I didn't try, but it should solve some major issues.
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- KVRer
- 4 posts since 6 Aug, 2004
Chiming in as I'm looking at grabbing Audified's IR-based Mixchecker. It gives a quick approximation of how a final tune might sound in different environments - car, different speakers in a room, earbuds, etc. Of course this can vary wildly and not account for monitoring setup but it still seems handy. Now I keep thinking with the IR-based Meldas I own, there ought to be some kind of IR set/Melda plug combo equivalent. Is there? Ideas, anyone?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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- KVRAF
- 7022 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK
Cool. Some ideas to try.jmg8 wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:29 am Hello. I have done this yes, and its super easy. I didn't use REW but Sonarworks. They correct headphones and speakers to have flatter frequencies. I downloaded the demo, selected my headphone model (KRK KNS8400) and it sounded great. So I put an MConvolution before and after the plugin. Opened up the advanced settings panel on both convolutions and set the instance after the plugin to record and the instance before the plugin to test tone. Then stop recording and you will get an IR of the plugin. Remember to set the dry/wet to 100% wet. Now try and A/B the plugin with your new IR. I couldn't hear a difference. So I saved it as a preset in MConvolution and deleted the demo. Happy days.
I've tried pink noise out of DAW then captured with a Melda EQ with match functions, unfortunately, I've sold the plugin and changed monitors since. I wasn't sure if it was better.
For room correction, REW can create a convolution impulse response with corrected filters that can be exported, then, loaded into a convolution plugin in your DAW. This impulse can also be used system wide on Windows using Equalizer APO.
https://youtu.be/zs2tdnF9omw
For headphones, Sienna by Acustica is free until 1/10/21 CPU (usage may be above normal plugins).
https://www.acustica-audio.com/pages/specials/sienna-free
I'm also curious about trying Waves' Abbey Road room simulation after reading a post by a musician who I respect musically and production wise.
I have ARC System 3, a Superlux omnidirectional condenser microphone and a calibration file that I found on the net, I should start using ARC 3.
I found results from REW and ARC do vary, maybe a mobile phone phone SPL app might be the way to go when setting levels. I'll try 70-75 dB. I found ARC to be my preference, when listening to CDs, I thought, this is the way the artist wanted it to be heard.
https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=568695&p=8181711#post_content818171
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- KVRAF
- 7022 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK
I use MConvlutionEZ with a mixcube impulse set to mono, I also high pass it. Another tool is TB ProAudio's free ISOL8 set to mono and limited frequency.annadyne wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:10 am Chiming in as I'm looking at grabbing Audified's IR-based Mixchecker. It gives a quick approximation of how a final tune might sound in different environments - car, different speakers in a room, earbuds, etc. Of course this can vary wildly and not account for monitoring setup but it still seems handy. Now I keep thinking with the IR-based Meldas I own, there ought to be some kind of IR set/Melda plug combo equivalent. Is there? Ideas, anyone?
Thanks!
Try here if you use FL Studio - https://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?t=226734

