Hydrasynth
- GRRRRRRR!
- 15847 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
I don't see any point in "desktop" synths - may as well use a VSTi and be done with it.
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- KVRAF
- 11090 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
@Bones - you don’t see the point of desktop synth but the UNO Pro Desktop?
I like to be able to use instruments without having to use a computer at all. I find making music without a computer more enjoyable.
I like to be able to use instruments without having to use a computer at all. I find making music without a computer more enjoyable.
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- KVRAF
- 4764 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
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WatchTheGuitar WatchTheGuitar https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=440193
- KVRAF
- 12925 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
I’d only seen the rear of the unit in a video and could see cv ports, but you’re right it looks like the Explorer only has cv outputs. On the other hand it does have a power socket so don’t see why having a battery power option is a negative if it means you can take it out and about. The build quality is probably fine like most things if you don’t plan to use it aggressively.kcearl wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:51 amNo cv in either?WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:43 am To me the Explorer looks like it has everything the desktop version has, but obviously adds portable playability. I was wrong about the price, the US dollar RRP is $799 which is about the same as the desktop.
So less knobs/screens, no cv in, plastic build, mini keys, battery power
Looks a good addition as a second tier module in a live setup or sofa jams, but I think the desktops a better studio tool if we’re at the same price point imo
- KVRAF
- 3820 posts since 13 Jun, 2014
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- KVRist
- 199 posts since 1 Feb, 2015
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WatchTheGuitar WatchTheGuitar https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=440193
- KVRAF
- 12925 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
Yeah I’d seen two different price levels so good to see real world examples.
PMT Online in UK has it for £519 and they’re not generally cheapest so imagine it’ll be sub-£500 somewhere.
- KVRist
- 217 posts since 25 May, 2012 from Sunny Philly
I didnt mean them as negatives, just differencesWatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:09 amI’d only seen the rear of the unit in a video and could see cv ports, but you’re right it looks like the Explorer only has cv outputs. On the other hand it does have a power socket so don’t see why having a battery power option is a negative if it means you can take it out and about. The build quality is probably fine like most things if you don’t plan to use it aggressively.kcearl wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:51 amNo cv in either?WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:43 am To me the Explorer looks like it has everything the desktop version has, but obviously adds portable playability. I was wrong about the price, the US dollar RRP is $799 which is about the same as the desktop.
So less knobs/screens, no cv in, plastic build, mini keys, battery power
Looks a good addition as a second tier module in a live setup or sofa jams, but I think the desktops a better studio tool if we’re at the same price point imo
- KVRist
- 217 posts since 25 May, 2012 from Sunny Philly
Thats what I thought initially….$200 difference is a chunk of change.
Id consider adding the explorer if it had speakers (sofa noodling demands speakers )….now just got to figure out if Id use the deluxe over the desktop
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WatchTheGuitar WatchTheGuitar https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=440193
- KVRAF
- 12925 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
I am probably going to get the deluxe and sell my 49 key version and as it’d also make my 88 key MIDI controller redundant sell that too. But, the little Explorer does intrigue me.
Looks like a fair wait though. Deluxes don’t look like being in stock until December.
The two areas I think ASM need to address now are a way of uploading user wavetables and, maybe to go with that, companion software that is worthy of the machines, like Modal or even Korg with their latest software for Wavestate and Modwave have done.
On the wishlist would be some kind of user programmable voice/effects like the Prologue offers and one or two actual analog oscillators and/or filter options would be icing on the cake.
Looks like a fair wait though. Deluxes don’t look like being in stock until December.
The two areas I think ASM need to address now are a way of uploading user wavetables and, maybe to go with that, companion software that is worthy of the machines, like Modal or even Korg with their latest software for Wavestate and Modwave have done.
On the wishlist would be some kind of user programmable voice/effects like the Prologue offers and one or two actual analog oscillators and/or filter options would be icing on the cake.
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- KVRist
- 217 posts since 25 May, 2012 from Sunny Philly
The Modal software is excellent…I use it with an Argon 8 and its worked perfectly. Id definitely like something similar with the HS.WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:09 pm I am probably going to get the deluxe and sell my 49 key version and as it’d also make my 88 key MIDI controller redundant sell that too. But, the little Explorer does intrigue me.
The two areas I think ASM need to address now are a way of uploading user wavetables and, maybe to go with that, companion software that is worthy of the machines, like Modal or even Korg with their latest software for Wavestate and Modwave have done.
My only issue is I bought the desktop to rack, and whereas the pads are excellent I just think polys need keys, it gets far less use than anything else I have, in fact other than a JV1080 its my only non key poly. My only buyers remorse.
Now its either buy a “soon to come” cheap used 49 or go the full hog….reminds me of a JX10, great idea just smash two synths together…and add a shelf
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WatchTheGuitar WatchTheGuitar https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=440193
- KVRAF
- 12925 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
Poly aftertouch semi-weighted, exactly like the 49 key version supposedly
- KVRAF
- 2822 posts since 14 Feb, 2001 from What do you care? :)
Poly aftertouch and semi weighted keys on the smaller Explorer version as well, btw. It seems that the main thing it's missing is the ribbon controller.
I would love to have the deluxe version for sure! Also because of the extended polyphony and ability to layer patches. But heck, I would be happy with the regular version. I would be quite happy with the Explorer!
I imagine all of these are going to be difficult to come by for a while?
I would love to have the deluxe version for sure! Also because of the extended polyphony and ability to layer patches. But heck, I would be happy with the regular version. I would be quite happy with the Explorer!
I imagine all of these are going to be difficult to come by for a while?
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