Arturia SQ 80 V

[Tj Shredder]

are the kids on your lawn again?

It depends. Are you one of 'the kids'?

But seriously, pretending laptops/desktop computers are easier, better, stronger than a keyboard...
Now THAT'S ****ing rich!

A laptop controlled by a keyboard is - by multiple magnitudes…
If I had an original SQ 80 I would sell it immediately as it even has close to no performance controls and is heavy. For the money I could buy a better Midi controller (with performance controls) and the complete Arturia collection… I have no idea why people pay so much for these machines…

[davidka]

Yeah, it's always better to play a live show hauling a laptop and interface, or desktop computer, mouse, and display monitor rather than those cumbersome keyboards. Computers NEVER break down!

Storage space is not an option? Floppy disks and carts are a figment of the imagination?

Good ****ing grief.

I am hoping that they somehow get access to the Ensoniq kingdom so that they can do the DP/4 and the EPS. Pretty much anything that Arturia has done in the last 4 or 5 years has been well received.

Thanks for pointing this out, I've skipped a deal on one 2 years ago, and since then some good videos appeared with this unit. VFX and Fizmo were also talked about earlier - this shouldn't be too far away, would also make sense to involve these VLSI chip stuff.

Nevertheless I'm eagerly waiting for the SQ-80. I like how Arturia did the CZ V, DX7 and Vocoder V. I consider them quite fun to use, and I am convinced they will also do their best with this one.
Much better than lugging around a hw synth and keeping it alive especially when storage space is not an option.

I am a hobbyist, I don't ever do live shows.
I'd rather have my ableton shit itself once a year than crowding our small apartment with hardware synths... Which also do break and need maintenance after 20-30years of life.
I can also service some synth stuff, but in absence of space I choose not to.

No need of sarcasm and swearing where none is needed, just think about that other people live different lives than you, and might view these stuff differently.

[Examigan]

are the kids on your lawn again?

It depends. Are you one of 'the kids'?

But seriously, pretending laptops/desktop computers are easier, better, stronger than a keyboard...
Now THAT'S ****ing rich!

A laptop controlled by a keyboard is - by multiple magnitudes…
If I had an original SQ 80 I would sell it immediately as it even has close to no performance controls and is heavy. For the money I could buy a better Midi controller (with performance controls) and the complete Arturia collection… I have no idea why people pay so much for these machines…

I just looked up the weight and the SQ-80 is 29 lbs. versus my MIDI keyboard that is less than half that. At the moment I only have one hardware synth and it's 20 lbs.

[jojoB3]

All this in reply about 'weight' when the orig reply made was really about strength, ease, stability, portability of a hardware keyboard vs the vst hopeful of one. I love my computers and select VSTs but no, they aren't bettering nor comparable in regard regular live use.

If you're a hobbyist it makes sense just enjoying vsts in the home studio but many musicians perform live (and often), ease and dependability is often foremost on list. For example, if the SQ80/ESQ bonks out for some reason it's usually a fast pwr off/on and I'm back in business. If worse, them's the breaks...got to fix it later.

And on weight and dependability, I still haul a full B3/122/pedals near weekly. At times the rhodes suitcase (along with other vintage and recent synths), I can say that the Hammond B/C/A1xx might be one of the most dependable road/live instruments to date. Next being the vintage keyboards, whereas the laptop/desktop...not as high on list in regard. Really good for what it is, but yeah, not comparable.

[vurt]

All this in reply about 'weight' when the orig reply made was really about strength, ease, stability, portability of a hardware keyboard vs the vst hopeful of one. I love my computers and select VSTs but no, they aren't bettering nor comparable in regard regular live use.

depends how far youre travelling.
close enough to drive, the full modular could come.
if im getting a plane, its my laptop and a controller.

[jojoB3]

Pay so much for these? An SQ80/ESQ1 (with a keybed inho that's LIGHT YEARS better in feel and function over 95% of the controllers out there) costs anywhere from free/found to $5-600 usually).

How much is a laptop/desktop capable of Arturia V collection and 1 or 2+ awful feeling Novation/Maudio/SL/etc.? Answer: way more...and way more in the long run. You'll be replacing that controller (at min the mod/pitch wheel/contact/usb jack...but most likely the entire unit) altogether soon down the road where as these older boards chug on like a workhorse).

What's the average age here btw? Have any of you actually TRIED these older keyboards? Please do, I think you'll quickly surmise the same.

For the money I could buy a better Midi controller (with performance controls) and the complete Arturia collection… I have no idea why people pay so much for these machines…

[jojoB3]

Well sure, that or backline.

...if im getting a plane, its my laptop and a controller.

[gaggle of hermits]

All this in reply about 'weight' when the orig reply made was really about strength, ease, stability, portability of a hardware keyboard vs the vst hopeful of one.

false dichotomy.

keyboardists in a lot of the acts i've seen in recent years have been rocking a nord 73 or 88-key either on its own or as a master keyboard, with laptops or sound modules as sound sources or fx processors. maybe a few rhodes/suitcases in jazz gigs. oh, and the odd keytar - they made a bit of a comeback a few years ago.

in that time i've seen exactly one time the laptop failed - except it wasn't the laptop but the external audio interface. they wound up using the regular audio out from the macbook once someone had found the jack adapter. (the interface wigged out during the changeover.)

[metalifuxx]

This is in plain sight if you take a close look at the V Collection 8 product page

[T-CM11]

Pay so much for these? An SQ80/ESQ1 (with a keybed inho that's LIGHT YEARS better in feel and function over 95% of the controllers out there) costs anywhere from free/found to $5-600 usually).

How much is a laptop/desktop capable of Arturia V collection and 1 or 2+ awful feeling Novation/Maudio/SL/etc.? Answer: way more...and way more in the long run. You'll be replacing that controller (at min the mod/pitch wheel/contact/usb jack...but most likely the entire unit) altogether soon down the road where as these older boards chug on like a workhorse).

What's the average age here btw? Have any of you actually TRIED these older keyboards? Please do, I think you'll quickly surmise the same.

Go post it on your twitter, or whatever website you use to talk to yourself. Hyperbole (yeah yeah, you've inserted "inho" somewhere) won't convince different people with different needs that your view is correct. Why do you need to convince people in the first place? If somebody is perfectly happy with a cheap controller or even inputting notes with a computer keyboard (not me!) or mouse ... more power to them!

And no, I'm not 16 years old - and yes, I have an old keyboard (K1) here. It's not LIGHT YEARS(!!) better. And I can imagine that some of that "betterness" is lost on me, not being a professional/skilled/experienced keyboard player. Maybe you are? More power to you!

[jojoB3]

and we've seen it countless times...to this day (either platform).

false dichotomy. ......

....in that time i've seen exactly one time the laptop failed

[gaggle of hermits]

and we've seen it countless times...to this day (either platform).

false dichotomy. ......

....in that time i've seen exactly one time the laptop failed

the false dichotomy is that you have either one or the other rather than a combination - particularly given the fact that playing chords on a computer keyboard is a bit tricky.

i'm not sure why i have to explain this twice but here we are.

also, nice use of selective quoting: the laptop didn't fail. it, and its internal d/a, was working fine.

[jojoB3]

- So....17 y/o?

- YOU go post on your Twitter, kid. If you can't handle the discussion then sit down or move on.

- I'm no more trying to convince any more than you/other VST-centric are trying to convince that VST and laptops are more reliable, or that today's controllers are built better and feel better than the mentioned.

They certainly are not and they certainly do not...
IMHO

Go post it on your twitter, or whatever website you use to talk to yourself. Hyperbole (yeah yeah, you've inserted "inho" somewhere) won't convince different people with different needs that your view is correct. Why do you need to convince people in the first place? If somebody is perfectly happy with a cheap controller or even inputting notes with a computer keyboard (not me!) or mouse ... more power to them!

And no, I'm not 16 years old - and yes, I have an old keyboard (K1) here. It's not LIGHT YEARS(!!) better. And I can imagine that some of that "betterness" is lost on me, not being a professional/skilled/experienced keyboard player. Maybe you are? More power to you!

[jojoB3]

I HAVE used both (live and in studio).

the false dichotomy is that you have either one or the other rather than a combination

[mholloway]

nm.