Lunatic Audio's NARCOTIC Multi-Effects & Step Sequencing Plugin -

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KVRist
471 posts since 30 Oct, 2003 from Pacific NW, USA

Post Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:47 am

I received an email this morning about the release of NARCOTIC by Lunatic Audio. It immediately got my attention because of it's 32 different effects, dedicated step-sequencers, a fully scalable interface with an X/Y pad reminiscent of Output's Portal, and a feature called "Shroom Magic" which functions like a Randomize button for the plugin's various settings.

There have been some pretty incredible multi-effects that have come out like Infiltrator, ShaperBox, Output's Movement, Portal and Thermal, Soundtoys Effect Rack, and EnRage by Boom Library. So things are heating up in the multi-fx corner of the market and I couldn't be happier to have access to these kinds of software tools.

I'm about to download Narcotic now, so I'll come back here to post about my experience. The intro price is $99 instead of $149 and that lasts for another 13 days. Hopefully it works and sounds as good as it looks (or better)!! 8)

KVRian
785 posts since 8 Oct, 2019

Post Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:58 am

I'm also kind of tempted. I got an email with an extra voucher, cause apparently I'm an existing customer.

Just not sure if it's different enough from Infiltrator to warrant a purchase, but I'll check out the demo.

Edit: But where is the demo?

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KVRAF
4535 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Post Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:15 am

gondii wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:58 am
Edit: But where is the demo?
Another no-demo release. Devs seem to be getting lazy about demos. "All Lunatic Audio products are sold “as is” with no warranty or refund privileges, unless the product is proven defective." Good luck to them with that. Some devs don't have a good business sense, unfortunately.

KVRian
785 posts since 8 Oct, 2019

Post Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:19 am

plexuss wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:15 am
Another no-demo release. Devs seem to be getting lazy about demos. "All Lunatic Audio products are sold “as is” with no warranty or refund privileges, unless the product is proven defective." Good luck to them with that. Some devs don't have a good business sense, unfortunately.
Oh, then I'm out, even with the extra "loyalty" discount. The fx modules in the demo videos also really don't sound impressive to be honest. It appears to be another launch through Audio Plugin Deals (I think that's why I got the loyalty voucher) and they do this "no demo no refund" thing all the time. Seriously odd, I can only assume they have no trust in their products.

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KVRian
1236 posts since 16 Jan, 2004

Post Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:58 pm

Copy protection mechanism? Couldn't find an answer on their site.

Also, no license transfers allowed...

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KVRAF
4535 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Post Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:00 pm

OzoneJunkie wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:58 pm
Copy protection mechanism?

Also, no license transfers allowed...
Their company seems accurately named :wink:

Almost as bad as http://www.audioflatulence.com/ except a real company!

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KVRAF
32693 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:02 pm

Their website is a bit style over substance and information lite. Would be useful to know what the 35 effects are for example. Little details like that.

KVRist

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471 posts since 30 Oct, 2003 from Pacific NW, USA

Post Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:44 pm

I haven’t had a chance to spend very much time with Narcotic yet, but I thought I’d list a few specs that people might want to know about. The 32 effects to choose from include:

“Band Drive, Bass Cabinet, Chorus, Compressor, Delay, Dr. Bass, EQ, Filter, Funk, Glitch, Glue, Grunge, Leslie, Lo-Fi, Modulator, Multiverse, Phaser, Phat, Pitch Drift, Retro Chorus, Reverb, Soft Clipper, Spaced Out, Steroids, Stutter, Tape, Toxins, Tremelo, Trip, Utility, Vibrato and Widener. You can load up to six effects in series and modulate the parameters of each effect with individual step sequencers. You can also assign parameters to an X/Y pad which too can be modulated.”

To authorize it, open it up in your DAW and you’ll be asked to enter your email/username and a serial number that they send you in an email. It was quick and painless. I agree that it sucks not allowing license transfers as that tends to really put people off and for good reason. As a personal policy, if I buy a plugin, I’m buying it for it’s current state and I realize that there’s a chance it will never be updated and could even become abandoned. I don’t feel that it’s very fair to the end user, but I’m willing to accept the terms of use and just try to enjoy making music. The rest is out of my hands. Hopefully they will respect their user base and reward paying customers with regular updates and communication with the community.

The first issue I’m running into is it seems you can’t have multiple instances of the same effect in your chain. The tabbed workflow at the top of the plugin is quick and easy to use. You simply click on the effect module name and that opens up it’s parameters. There’s a Global Control Bar at the bottom of the interface with input and output, swing, shift, speed, shape, mix, phase, gate, floor, human, and depth. Saving your own presets is also very easy. I’ll have to come back after I listen to the individual effect modules a little more critically. I’ve had a tree removal crew working next door since the butt crack of dawn, so maybe tonight I’ll actually be able to hear what I’m doing.

KVRAF
5289 posts since 24 May, 2004 from square1

Post Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:06 pm

That has to be quite early.

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KVRian
1236 posts since 16 Jan, 2004

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:39 am

morphex wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:44 pm


To authorize it, open it up in your DAW and you’ll be asked to enter your email/username and a serial number that they send you in an email. It was quick and painless.
But, is it actually registered with the email/serial, or does it then reach out over the internet and do a challenge/response, or activation? If you log into your account, does it show an activation for a given machine?

I find it hard to believe companies in this day and age that can't even properly list registration/activation information. For me, everything is an immediate pass until I have that information.

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KVRAF
2268 posts since 12 Jan, 2019

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:50 pm

morphex wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:44 pm
I’ll have to come back after I listen to the individual effect modules a little more critically.
Thank you for doing this. I look forward to reading more of your experiences with this plugin.
"Have you ever noticed how anyone driving faster than you is a [jerk] and anyone driving slower than you is a moron?" - George Carlin

KVRian
1392 posts since 29 Sep, 2013

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:25 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:02 pm
Their website is a bit style over substance and information lite. Would be useful to know what the 35 effects are for example. Little details like that.
Used the form on the website for a question.
No response.
Tried to join on FB.
No response.
Bit weird not responding to people during days following a launch…
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KVRAF
3199 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:58 pm

This company is run through Audio Plugin Deals, they wanted beta testers for the first of this companies releases, which is a game … a plugin game :dog:

I think this release will appear on audioplugindeals.com very soon.

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KVRAF
4535 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:10 pm

are we now experiencing the next de-evolution of plugins? First was the deep discount sale prices. Now people throwing together plugins without much "substance" to them and a now-premium price? I guess with so many people "doing music" for a hobby it would make sense to wip together mediocre plugins and put them up for sale. after that its just a matter of ecommerce. I'll pass...

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KVRAF
2268 posts since 12 Jan, 2019

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:23 pm

Well, drawing automation in Ableton Live feels mediocre to me. I get the sense that Ableton could enhance automation drawing/editing and Max for Live MSEG-like devices, and implement a step sequencer with customizable per-step envelopes--all in some integrated way with instrument racks that would make me never want to reach for an all-in-one effects plugin again. But that ain't happening. So, I'm willing to look--but I'll wait to hear more before judging Narcotic.
"Have you ever noticed how anyone driving faster than you is a [jerk] and anyone driving slower than you is a moron?" - George Carlin

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