Producing Music In Reverse - Cheating ?
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- KVRAF
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- 3251 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
It's a strange way to work in a DAW when producing a piece of music.. but it's something I have often found myself doing. It feels like I'm cheating the whole process or task / challenge. Is that something you find yourself doing ?
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Is it really "in reverse", though?
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- KVRAF
- 15274 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
I always begin with mastering well before one note is recorded. Much easier that way, so why is that cheating?
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- 995 posts since 4 Feb, 2021
You insert notes from right to left, starting with the end of the song?
You play your riffs backwards and reverse them in the DAW?
Or like Berkoor suggests, you mix and master before recording/programming?
Can somebody translate the meaning of reverse here, plz?
You play your riffs backwards and reverse them in the DAW?
Or like Berkoor suggests, you mix and master before recording/programming?
Can somebody translate the meaning of reverse here, plz?
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
I'm guessing - hence my post above - that he means that contrary to "real musicians" many DAW users nowadays use the software to actually come up with ideas - perhaps a patch, a sample, a short sequence or even an FX sound will inspire further steps, which will result in building the actual song and arrangement from that seed. So that would be "in reverse", i.e. instead of having a complete vision in your head - like a "real musician" would - and opening a DAW to just record it and elaborate on some details, someone else would start from a detail figuring out the rest around it. I know I work like that.TribeOfHǫfuð wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:36 am Can somebody translate the meaning of reverse here, plz?
But I also suspect - verging on certainty - that a lot of "real musicians" also get inspired by single sound, a riff, a pattern they heard, etc. That's why I'm not sure if it's really "in reverse". Perhaps it's just different tools and workflow, which ties all of this nicely with the discussion about treating your DAW as an instrument or whether or not DAWs should be boring.
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- KVRAF
- 4505 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest
there is subtractive music production too, https://www.edmprod.com/subtractive-music-production/
removing elements from the arrangement instead of adding them
removing elements from the arrangement instead of adding them
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- addled muppet weed
- 105872 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
can I ask what this has to do with hosts?
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- KVRist
- 212 posts since 28 Aug, 2021
What is producing in reverse? as in produce/play the music play backward?
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- addled muppet weed
- 105872 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
finish before you begindarkinners wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:42 pm What is producing in reverse? as in produce/play the music play backward?
- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
ummm...dude, plz trust me on this one...saturday after hours in my basement trying to decide if I should start loading up animals 2x2 I weighed myself...181.6, literally soaking wet with clothes on (when my wife died, 235ish? ). Absolutely the lowest I have been in decades, my appetite checked out without a forwarding address (no lie, sometimes takes two meals to eat one burger)...you will lose weight when you become older...hopefully a little at a time though,not the whole kit and kaboodle at once
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
he speaks from experience, if he were in the stones the album would have been Sticky Fly instead of Sticky Fingers...it almost was anyhowvurt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:21 pmfinish before you begindarkinners wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:42 pm What is producing in reverse? as in produce/play the music play backward?
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105872 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
nope, i do ok there.Hink wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:41 pmhe speaks from experience, if he were in the stones the album would have been Sticky Fly instead of Sticky Fingers...it almost was anyhowvurt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:21 pmfinish before you begindarkinners wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:42 pm What is producing in reverse? as in produce/play the music play backward?
i do have a friend "oops sorry dave" who got the nickname after shooting in a girls hair as she knelt down and unzipped him.