A gorgeous new granular delay by Audio Damage -

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KVRian
1397 posts since 29 Sep, 2013

Post Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:33 am

Dirtgrain wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:10 am
Do any of their plugins have more advanced LFO/MSEG options? I'm just wondering if they have someone who codes that sort of thing.
Instruments like Continua and Quanta have S&H.

KVRian
834 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8

Post Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:36 am

Yes, Quanta has MSEGs if i'm not mistaken

having said that, i don't actually miss these that much in this one.
Sure purchase for me, even though i usually don't buy any more plugins.

My only wish would be optimized GUI code as it really is putting a huge strain on my old laptop while the GUI is open, though i wouldn't mind further developed modulators if they will actually happen to happen, as someone has suggested is actually already planned.
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KVRian
1397 posts since 29 Sep, 2013

Post Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:46 am

FapFilter wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:36 am
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Yes, Quanta has MSEGs if i'm not mistaken
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You're right, they call it "Flexible Envelope Generator (FEG)".

KVRian
770 posts since 28 Jul, 2006

Post Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:05 pm

I'm gonna be hypocritical for a moment, since I asked for more mod options in this thread, but...

These crazy delay plugins where you can modulate tons of stuff and completely mangle the sound, how are people using these? When a demo the more complicated delay plugins, half of the presets seem unusable to me, including ODC.

Can someone post some examples of songs with crazy delay mangling that sounds really good? Usually I just want regular delay with some subtle modulations instead of it sounding like my computer is melting in hot lava while simultaneously being jackhammer by Satan while on a dizzying carnival ride.

Maybe some examples will help me become less boring with my delay use.

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KVRian
1377 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide

Post Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:28 pm

briefcasemanx wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:05 pm
I'm gonna be hypocritical for a moment, since I asked for more mod options in this thread, but...

These crazy delay plugins where you can modulate tons of stuff and completely mangle the sound, how are people using these? When a demo the more complicated delay plugins, half of the presets seem unusable to me, including ODC.

Can someone post some examples of songs with crazy delay mangling that sounds really good? Usually I just want regular delay with some subtle modulations instead of it sounding like my computer is melting in hot lava while simultaneously being jackhammer by Satan while on a dizzying carnival ride.

Maybe some examples will help me become less boring with my delay use.
I think the crazy modulation is more for the sound design stage, than the song writing stage.

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KVRAF
15666 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there

Post Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:41 pm

There's nothing crazy about a step sequencer creating a melody in a pitch shifter or a gate sequence modulating the low pass filter cutoff.

KVRian
834 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8

Post Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:17 am

the thing with heavier modulated settings is, that they are highly contextual.
What might have been jaw droppingly gorgeous on the source it was created for, can be useless garbage on most other sources.

Regarding the “missing“ modulators:
Yes, in this day and age, it seems a bit weird that such a capable plugin is missing such almost “basic“ features for “modern plugin standards“ that are not something like “hey, i'm a 100% exact vintage emulation and thus missing everything, even dry/wet controls)“

It has been said before, but you can do the “missing“ stuff quite easily with your DAW (even in the convoluted Reaper it's just a few more clicks), use MIDI control tools like xfer LFOtool, or put another pitch shifter with internal step modulating possibilities into the signal chain

Or use the admittedly way less predictable way and use the envelope follower for this and either be happy what the internal sidechain is doing to your pitches or gates, or use the external side chain on a dedicated track with a synth line or something else that delivers more controlled results.

Of course it would be nice if ODC had these features, but at least for me, they are not make or break features as it is still far from being a completely simplistic delay plugin in it's current form and sounds awesome (in a more “lofi“ Audio Damage kind of way) and it's not hard to get the missing stuff working with some external help.



P.S.: Of course especially people like Sampleconstruct and bmanic already know this (and much much more) already, just wanted to add my 2 cents wall of text to this. :oops:
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KVRAF
6619 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK

Post Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:24 am

briefcasemanx wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:05 pm
These crazy delay plugins where you can modulate tons of stuff and completely mangle the sound, how are people using these? When a demo the more complicated delay plugins, half of the presets seem unusable to me, including ODC.
I take the view that they show what the plug is capable of, maybe spark something new, we all throw different stuff through them after all. Maybe a drum loop is a mess whereas a sharp pluck gives a cool evolving cloud of sound etc.

I personally tend to start simply and add modulations as called for, don't think I've ever just called up something complex/bonkers (like, say, a Richard Devine preset in a UA plug :)) and used it as is.
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KVRian
953 posts since 27 Mar, 2013

Post Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:17 am

According to Chris Randall there will be more options for the lfos (phase, unipolar). He said they have it on list but there was not time for implementing, they wanted to release the product because of the long developing time. Right now I am a feel bit lost because I did not got a reaction the last couple of days regarding the GUI bug. Anyhow, probably on black friday this plugin will be offered again for sale and I will check then the status of it.
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KVRist
478 posts since 16 Jan, 2019 from a moist cave

Post Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:37 pm

Autobot wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:17 am
Right now I am a feel bit lost because I did not got a reaction the last couple of days regarding the GUI bug.
Why do so many of you always overreact to the most minor of issues? It's a gui bug and i'm sure they'll fix it soon enough. This is version 1.0 of the plugin and that means it's not going to be 100% perfect. There's no reason to lose your mind over this.

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KVRist
336 posts since 17 Oct, 2006 from Franche-Comté

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:35 pm

Update in 1.09. version but I don't find the "odc_settings.txt" file as stated in the Read me document _
I am with an Apple machine and can't find the Presets Folder, sorry . :?
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KVRian
837 posts since 14 Jul, 2018

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:10 pm

geronimo wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:35 pm
I am with an Apple machine and can't find the Presets Folder, sorry . :?
presets seem to be in
~/Music/Audio Damage/ODC/

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KVRian
865 posts since 8 Aug, 2011

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:38 pm

Does not show up in MXLinux19,4. After a clean reinstall, Roughrider3 finally showed up but still no Other Desert Cities.
Will try Manjaro this weekend.
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KVRist
336 posts since 17 Oct, 2006 from Franche-Comté

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:56 pm

Have you read the "Read me" file with the update Package ?
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KVRian
865 posts since 8 Aug, 2011

Post Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:37 am

geronimo wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:56 pm
Have you read the "Read me" file with the update Package ?
I was probably not the only one who reached support about this, at least they are working on it.
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