What's The Worst Value All In One Daw Solution Today ?

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KVRAF
4535 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:58 pm

Take Your Pick...
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KVRist
114 posts since 4 Jun, 2010

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:18 pm

All of them if you can't bloody make music with them.

Sorry getting depressive dementia because of covid lockdown in Australia.

KVRist
483 posts since 15 Feb, 2005

Post Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:20 pm

I'm sure ur just pokin fun at ur arch nemesis, but....
Possibly Live standard.....450$ without a full function multi-sampler?
Only the industry leader could get away with that
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KVRian
1322 posts since 2 Jun, 2003

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:36 am

It's gotta be Pro Tools. Like, to the point where people don't even think of Pro Tools.
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KVRian
1092 posts since 10 Jan, 2018

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:43 am

The one you buy and don't use.

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KVRist
39 posts since 14 Aug, 2006

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:52 am

agharta wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:43 am
The one you buy and don't use.
I bought the MPC Software and never use it, every time that I do start a project, normally ends up with an exit command..for me the workflow sucks

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KVRist
393 posts since 29 Apr, 2019

Post Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:33 am

frankpain wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:52 am
agharta wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:43 am
The one you buy and don't use.
I bought the MPC Software and never use it, every time that I do start a project, normally ends up with an exit command..for me the workflow sucks
That's like me with Maschine
-_- people rag on Reason for not supporting vst3 but maschine 2 also doesnt and feels like abandonware

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KVRAF
10268 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:01 am

frankpain wrote:
Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:52 am
I bought the MPC Software and never use it, every time that I do start a project, normally ends up with an exit command..for me the workflow sucks
I don't think it was ever meant to compete with "normal" DAWs, though? It's basically a software that lets you expand the usability of your MPC hardware (e.g. access VSTs).
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KVRAF
7003 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA

Post Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:26 am

I agree that it’s the one you buy and don’t use since all the major DAWs come packed with far more features and capabilities than any one person will typically use, or the ones you pay a premium for and comes with a bunch of features you don’t want or need. Case in point:
bermudagold wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:20 pm
Possibly Live standard.....450$ without a full function multi-sampler?
While that’s clearly a priority for bermudagold, I have no need for that feature, so paying extra for it would decrease the value of Live for me. Likewise, I’m sure there are features that I look for in a DAW that many others would think are just bloat and would gladly pay less to not have those features, if that was an option.

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3 posts since 17 Sep, 2021

Post Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:29 am

Smasha wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:18 pm
All of them if you can't bloody make music with them.

Sorry getting depressive dementia because of covid lockdown in Australia.
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KVRist
483 posts since 15 Feb, 2005

Post Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:30 pm

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Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:26 am
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I agree that it’s the one you buy and don’t use since all the major DAWs come packed with far more features and capabilities than any one person will typically use, or the ones you pay a premium for and comes with a bunch of features you don’t want or need. Case in point:<br/>

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Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:20 pm
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Possibly Live standard.....450$ without a full function multi-sampler?
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While that’s clearly a priority for bermudagold, I have no need for that feature, so paying extra for it would decrease the value of Live for me. Likewise, I’m sure there are features that I look for in a DAW that many others would think are just bloat and would gladly pay less to not have those features, if that was an option.
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fair enough...to me value is about breadth and depth per price point...how many of the basics at a serviceable level of quality without HAVING to supplement with additional purchase plugins...so yeah to me in the evolution of computer music production, it's hard to argue there is anything more fundamental or core than a capable for instrument design sampler....I also consider a convolution processor a "basic"....that's why I ended up with the choices I did in the original thread "best value DAW"

ignoring the freeware ones...which is a lot
For PC:
1. Tracktion
2. S1 Artist / Reaper (tie)
3. Mulab / FL Studio

All of those are less than 115 bucks
I would put FL in one of the first two slots, but you don't get edison until the 200$ price point, and you don't get newtone or directwave until the 300$ price point...the value isn't immediate...its amortized from free lifetime updates...unless they renege on that eventually...Tracktion and Mulab are missing a convolution processor, and I can't put Mixcraft on the list without a full function sampler at that price point.

that said, if you are on Mac, I don't think anybody can beat the value of logic, but that's because its being subsidized by the markup on the hardware,...so I doubt anybody ever will
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Beware the Quoth
29931 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair

Post Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:06 am

Logic.


if you're a PC user.
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KVRAF
3742 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit

Post Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:41 am

gentleclockdivider wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:58 pm
Take Your Pick...
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KVRAF
1872 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Seattle, WA - USA

Post Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:42 pm

All of them since I still haven't made a single penny from my music in over 20 years, so every one has been a lost investment.

KVRist
307 posts since 13 Jul, 2021

Post Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:12 pm

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