The Synthmaster 3 Thread

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KVRist
184 posts since 30 Jan, 2016

Post Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:56 am

I think there should be a place like this. :wink:

First Question:
What would be the upgrade price of Synthmaster 3 for Synthmaster 2.8 + Synthmaster One users like me?

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KVRist
469 posts since 1 Apr, 2012 from bamboo tube

Post Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:47 am

$30.00 or so.
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KVRAF
20543 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Post Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:49 am

Given that Synthmaster itself is so cheap, how much could an upgrade even cost?

Whatever amount they decide on it'll be a drop in the bucket.

KVRist
82 posts since 8 Jun, 2017

Post Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:21 am

From what i remember from other thread kv311 said it will be free update.

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KVRAF
2062 posts since 28 Feb, 2015

Post Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:55 am

Lets dance wrote:From what i remember from other thread kv311 said it will be free update.
It will be a free update for those owning the Everything Bundle, don't think it will be free for those owning other versions.
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KVRAF
1849 posts since 11 Aug, 2012 from omfr morf form romf frmo

Post Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:33 pm

From this thread: viewtopic.php?f=98&t=473944&p=6634313&h ... e#p6634313
SynthMaster 3 upgrade for existing SynthMaster users will be $29. For everything bundle owners it's free.

KVRist
130 posts since 27 Mar, 2020

Post Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:23 pm

I own only synthmaster one. What will be my upgrade price? The same 30 or a little higher?

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KVRian
930 posts since 13 Oct, 2005 from digging a tunnel under your PC

Post Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:25 am

I own SM One and SM 2.9.
Still gonna be $29 to upgrade or might there be a bit of a concession to someone who owns both synths ?
As far as I'm aware, that is everything they make ( besides expansions, which don't interest me )as they only have 2 synths.

KVRAF
2622 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Post Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:39 am

Soon I hope!
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KVRAF
6118 posts since 14 Nov, 2006 from Ankara, Turkey

Post Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:28 pm

Hi guys,

Just wanted to give you guys an update on my development progress. Before I dedicate my self fully to v3 development, I had to make some preparations, i.e. make some serious architectural changes.

Last year, I completed the first phase of those changes by making the audio engine modular: in v2.9.9, we can not instantiate effects on the fly.

This year, I'm completing the 2nd phase, by making the UI modular. I first did that on iOS, and now moving that infrastructure to desktop. The following UI is constructed dynamically on the fly, and it is much easiler to build/maintain on our end:

Screen Shot 2021-09-21 at 10.11.58.png

The above update (v2.9.10) will be released hopefuly in 2-3 weeks, and then I will start developing the planned changes for v3:

1. VST3 support (this looks like mandatory, Steinberg does NOT allow new plugins with VST 2.4)
2. Flexible routing for layer modules (4 oscillators, 4 modulators, 4 FX, 4 adders, 4 multipliers that can be connected to each other dynamically)
3. dynamic number of layers, up to 16 layers
4. Being able to load SynthMaster One / SynthMaster 2.9 presets into layers
5. Granular synthesis
6. Sample editor
7. Wavetable editor
8. (if time permits) e flexible sequencer with velocity/key regions.
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KVRian
1125 posts since 16 Aug, 2004

Post Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:41 pm

Looking forward to it :tu:

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KVRAF
2244 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy

Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:41 am

projectdan wrote:
Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:41 pm
Looking forward to it :tu:
Yes Sir....

SynthMaster 2 has become my favourite workhorse since v2.9.8...

The proverbial desert island synth :wink:
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KVRian
1218 posts since 21 Apr, 2017 from Bahia, Brazil

Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:21 am

Wow.... that was a twist I didnt see coming. Cant wait
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KVRAF
2622 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Post Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:00 am

kv331 wrote:
Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:28 pm

The above update (v2.9.10) will be released hopefuly in 2-3 weeks, and then I will start developing the planned changes for v3:

1. VST3 support (this looks like mandatory, Steinberg does NOT allow new plugins with VST 2.4)
Great news!

But are you absolutely sure about #1 above?

Other discussions on this topic that I have seen imply that this is only of concern to NEW developers that do not already have a license for the VST 2.4 development tools. They cannot get a new VST 2.4 license from Steinberg, therefore they can only release VST3 plugins.

But I have products from other developers that continue to release NEW plugins in both formats.
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KVRAF
6184 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:43 am

Yes, once you have the license you have it, they can't take it away. Its still useful to support both if its just a recompile. The feature set of the two differ though, I would always want to know what is the main target VST2 or VST3...

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