Unfiltered Audio Lion

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KVRist
207 posts since 13 Oct, 2006

Post Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:06 pm

Sounds Divine has been doing a series of preset libraries for Lion. I quite like them, especially the most recent one, Shimmer. It's always interesting to see how people create sounds for instruments. Some beautiful programming here.

https://soundsdivine.com/product-category/sound-sets/
2020 iMac 27" 10 Core, OS 10.15.6, iConnectAudio2+, iConnectMidi4+, Novation SL MKIII, Push 2, Ableton Live

KVRian
789 posts since 11 Dec, 2003

Post Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:33 am

krankyone wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:06 pm
Sounds Divine has been doing a series of preset libraries for Lion. I quite like them, especially the most recent one, Shimmer. It's always interesting to see how people create sounds for instruments. Some beautiful programming here.

https://soundsdivine.com/product-category/sound-sets/
Cheers kranykyone :tu:

There's also some free presets from the 6 sets to give folks a taste of whats in the Fantastic Flaws sets here :

https://soundsdivine.com/product/lion-presets/

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KVRist
141 posts since 17 Sep, 2019

Post Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:12 pm

Is there a solution for that weird random behaviour when using the LP12 24 filters triggered by a short decay ADSR? it randomly creates click/plop noises which are ugly and destroy the sound. the other filtertypes don´t have this problem.

KVRian
887 posts since 29 May, 2011 from Germany

Post Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:15 am

brick wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:33 am
krankyone wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:06 pm
Sounds Divine has been doing a series of preset libraries for Lion. I quite like them, especially the most recent one, Shimmer. It's always interesting to see how people create sounds for instruments. Some beautiful programming here.

https://soundsdivine.com/product-category/sound-sets/
Cheers kranykyone :tu:

There's also some free presets from the 6 sets to give folks a taste of whats in the Fantastic Flaws sets here :

https://soundsdivine.com/product/lion-presets/
... which do sound good enough for me to have searched -alas, in vain- for a bundle purchase option for all 6 packs. Yeah, I see that 4 are still on 20%-off-intro pricing, but still.. :hihi:

KVRian
789 posts since 11 Dec, 2003

Post Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:05 am

epiphaneia wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:15 am
brick wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:33 am
krankyone wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:06 pm
Sounds Divine has been doing a series of preset libraries for Lion. I quite like them, especially the most recent one, Shimmer. It's always interesting to see how people create sounds for instruments. Some beautiful programming here.

https://soundsdivine.com/product-category/sound-sets/
Cheers kranykyone :tu:

There's also some free presets from the 6 sets to give folks a taste of whats in the Fantastic Flaws sets here :

https://soundsdivine.com/product/lion-presets/
... which do sound good enough for me to have searched -alas, in vain- for a bundle purchase option for all 6 packs. Yeah, I see that 4 are still on 20%-off-intro pricing, but still.. :hihi:
https://soundsdivine.com/product/lion-fantastic-flaws/

KVRist
242 posts since 28 Oct, 2010 from Mexico

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:39 pm

I just got Lion. I'm really liking the unique sound but finding a couple of problems with the UI.

First I gotta say the UI performance is not great. I'm running a Ryzen 3700X and Lion seems to be running at less than 30 fps. Specially when dragging modules, it's like I'm running it on an old potato PC.

Then the tooltips are practically unreadable. I'm running on Windows 10 with a 4K monitor with 175% scaling values in Windows.

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Are the horizontal scroll bars suffering from this scaling issue too? They seem too thin considering they are fundamental for navigating the UI. The scroll wheel doesn't seem to work for moving horizontally, only for changing parameters.

The transpose slider at the bottom doesn't allow me to select whole values like -12 semitones. There are always decimal values.

Honestly, I didn't expect these kinds of issues on a 2 year old product. I saw some post here from the dev about hiDPI issues but I expected this to be solved thing at this point.

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KVRAF
32946 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:59 pm

I wish it had export to NKS like most of the other PA instrument plugins do

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KVRer
16 posts since 9 Sep, 2021

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:01 pm

pierb wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:39 pm
I'm running a Ryzen 3700X and Lion seems to be running at less than 30 fps. Specially when dragging modules, it's like I'm running it on an old potato PC.
Yeah, I've never been super impressed with Lion's UI performance, especially with synths like Vital now blazing at 60fps.

Although my main problem with Lion's UI is one that would be easy to fix: It's an inconsistency between the menus for oscillators and everything else in the UI. For filters, effects, and so on, you select the module from the little hamburger menu in the top right. But for the oscillators, you don't! For some reason, you have to click on the title instead.

It's a little thing, but I always have to think for an extra moment "wait, it's an oscillator, so click on the title" or "it's an effect, so go over to the corner." I don't care which it is, so long as it's the same!
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KVRAF
3879 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:01 pm

DMuzik wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:46 pm
thelizard wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:01 am
I have Apple Silicon builds of everything running on my new M1, so those patches are next up for testing.
Any news on these being released?
Bouncing this to to forefront. The next round of AS macbooks is probably out in the next month here. I'm due for a new laptop and it's going to be an M1(x or2), unless AMD announce some crazy thermally magnificent chip that's getting thrown into a Zenbook.

Would love to see a native AS Lion build.

KVRist
242 posts since 28 Oct, 2010 from Mexico

Post Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:11 pm

fieldframe wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:01 pm
Yeah, I've never been super impressed with Lion's UI performance, especially with synths like Vital now blazing at 60fps.
And a new graphics engine is coming which apparently is more efficient.

https://twitter.com/matttytel/status/14 ... 3646862346

KVRist
119 posts since 24 Dec, 2018 from France

Post Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:16 am

https://youtu.be/EicuOUsKc-8
Hello sound lovers, some of you might be interested in my EROSION bank, a Premium bank of 93 standard presets and 39 MPE (so a total of 132) presets designed for the Unfiltered Audio beauty LION.
Store: https://bit.ly/erosion_premium
The presets of this bank are based on the idea of erosion, rust, decay, mostly in ambient, cinematic, dystopian styles but also ambient pads, gritty drones, dirty plucked keys etc) and more effects or experimental timbres.
Additional audio demos here : https://bit.ly/erosion_audio
All presets have been carefully designed and contain several Macros, Aftertouch and often Mod Wheel assignments. and Strike, Slide and Pressure for the MPE bank.
Philippe, for Trajectoire
Philippe

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KVRAF
1584 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide

Post Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:44 am

I must admit I did start a sound bank for Lion but stopped it after about 10 presets. I found I couldn't get fast enough envelopes for some sounds like plucks, and there is a really strange design choice when saving presets. I say design choice because I reported it as a bug to PA and was told it was supposed to lose all your tags when you resave a presets!! lol

I do still like Lion a lot, the effects are awesome. I am hoping a decent update will come soon.

KVRAF
3463 posts since 20 Feb, 2004

Post Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:30 pm

p1afff wrote:
Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:16 am
https://youtu.be/EicuOUsKc-8
Hello sound lovers, some of you might be interested in my EROSION bank, a Premium bank of 93 standard presets and 39 MPE (so a total of 132) presets designed for the Unfiltered Audio beauty LION.
Store: https://bit.ly/erosion_premium
The presets of this bank are based on the idea of erosion, rust, decay, mostly in ambient, cinematic, dystopian styles but also ambient pads, gritty drones, dirty plucked keys etc) and more effects or experimental timbres.
Additional audio demos here : https://bit.ly/erosion_audio
All presets have been carefully designed and contain several Macros, Aftertouch and often Mod Wheel assignments. and Strike, Slide and Pressure for the MPE bank.
Philippe, for Trajectoire
Really well done presets! :)
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KVRAF
6368 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:16 pm

Biome_Digital wrote:
Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:44 am
and there is a really strange design choice when saving presets. I say design choice because I reported it as a bug to PA and was told it was supposed to lose all your tags when you resave a presets!! lol
I would call this a design bug. No doubt possible that this is a bug! It simply doesn’t make any sense, it prevents just tweaking sounds…

KVRist
119 posts since 24 Dec, 2018 from France

Post Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:09 pm

Biome_Digital wrote:
Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:44 am
I say design choice because I reported it as a bug to PA and was told it was supposed to lose all your tags when you resave a presets!! lol

I do still like Lion a lot, the effects are awesome. I am hoping a decent update will come soon.
I did not find special problems on EG… For PA support, I once contacted them for Lion too, and their answer was totally bs, complete nonsense.
It’s a wonderful synth indeed, oscs are awesome (amongst other features).
Philippe

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