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takaperry wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:54 amMy only gripe with Bitwig is the lack of audio quantise… in 2021 you should be able to select the audio event and hit ‘Q’ to quantise the onsets.. I don’t know why this is not a function yet, seeing as we have Elastique in the DAW.
I suspect they want to first add the long overdue sensitivity threshold for onset detection. You can even see the readout already in the inspector, but it does nothing.

takaperry wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:54 amAnd no, the ‘Slice at Onsets’ and quantising the individual events is not an acceptable workaround
God dammnit! I was ready to post the relevant link ;) :D
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docbot wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:27 am
questionaire wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:16 pm What annoys me really is that the velocity sensitive knob/adjustment is presented in dB's and not in percentage and that it is also affects the overal volume while adjusting. So lowering the velocity sensitivity increases the volume. That is with sampler and polysynth for example. So adjusting the velocity means readjusting the volume bweeehhhhh.

Phase 4 is in percentage.

In ableton it is done properly in perecentage and keeping the volume at a controlled volume.
Ableton handles velocity very wrong in their stock devices. When you increase velocity sensitivity, the loudest sounds with 127 vel. should stay at the same volume and the notes with lower velocity should become more quiet, but Ableton for some reason decided that increasing velocity sensitivity will make the loudest sounds louder, which throws off the whole mix and makes you having to readjust the volume fader constantly.

Bitwig does it the correct way. You set the device volume which equals a 127 note. If you increase velocity sensitivity, Bitwig shows you how much quieter a 0 velocity note will be in relation to the volume you chose for the loudest notes. It's actually a genius feature.
Thank you for this explanation that really makes sense, and helps me to understand the Bitwig way! It is just that it felt more natural to me in Ableton but that was with other velocity curve on my novation controller. But as said adjusting with my novation velocity curve adjusting from normal+ to normal and the "default" sensitivity setting on sampler changing from 30 lowering to 20 dB made a hell of a lot difference. It feels really snappy now in Bitwig even with samples with high attack.

I just have to get used to the Bitwig way i think.

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-The note auditioning in the Piano Roll. The only adjustment is On or Off, which is a tiny little Audition Notes button on the bottom that you cannot map to a shortcut button. I probably have to click this button 40+ times in a session when I'm editing MIDI, and it's always just a bit irritating because of how small the button is, and how it always seems to be in the opposite position of what I need.

Solution: add the Audition Notes button to the list of Shortcuts that can be customized by the user, so I can set a hotkey. Alternately, a hotkey that turns the mouse cursor into a moving playhead, where clicking Auditions whatever notes the cursor is positioned over.

-No ability to turn Pop-Up Browser Preview button OFF by default. It is always ON automatically, and if I dont turn it off, upon closing the Browser I end up with massive GUI lag of 5-15 seconds where Bitwig's GUI is totally frozen, but I can still play notes and hear audio normally. I have been thru support, tried lots of things but there seems to be no solution since it's currently impossible to upgrade my graphics card. If I click the Prieview button OFF before selecting my plugin/device there is no lag at all, loads very snappy. But it's always ON by default and if I don't remember to click it off every... single... time.. I use the Pop-Up Browser: boom, frozen Bitwig for 5-15 seconds.

Solution: add an option to the Behavior page in the Settings to have the Pop-Up Browser Preview OFF by default

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What drives me crazy is that I don't miss Bitwig at all having uninstalled it 3-4 weeks ago :(
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antic604 wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:20 am What drives me crazy is that I don't miss Bitwig at all having uninstalled it 3-4 weeks ago :(
No reason you should considering the various DAW's you have!

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pdxindy wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:08 pm
antic604 wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:20 am What drives me crazy is that I don't miss Bitwig at all having uninstalled it 3-4 weeks ago :(
No reason you should considering the various DAW's you have!
Yeah, I get that. However using Live or Reason I constantly cringe like "why can't this DAW to that like Bitwig could?!", but that's not enough for me to install it back.

Am I a masochist? :D :oops:
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antic604 wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:12 pm
pdxindy wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:08 pm
antic604 wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:20 am What drives me crazy is that I don't miss Bitwig at all having uninstalled it 3-4 weeks ago :(
No reason you should considering the various DAW's you have!
Yeah, I get that. However using Live or Reason I constantly cringe like "why can't this DAW to that like Bitwig could?!", but that's not enough for me to install it back.

Am I a masochist? :D :oops:
Why did you uninstall it?

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pdxindy wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:17 pm Why did you uninstall it?
Honestly, since early 2018 when I first installed it I haven't finished a single track, despite having few dozens of ones that are 1/2 - 2/3 ready... I think I just get exhausted with all the options Bitwig gives (for my music & workflow). In some way it makes it easy for me to never finish anything, because I can endlessly tweak things and not commit. In contrast Reason's the opposite - it's incredibly flexible too, but things very quickly get super complex, confusing and fiddly to edit anymore, so I have to let go and move on to next sound, sequence, etc.

I know it's stupid, but that's my experience.
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antic604 wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:28 pm
pdxindy wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:17 pm Why did you uninstall it?
Honestly, since early 2018 when I first installed it I haven't finished a single track, despite having few dozens of ones that are 1/2 - 2/3 ready... I think I just get exhausted with all the options Bitwig gives (for my music & workflow). In some way it makes it easy for me to never finish anything, because I can endlessly tweak things and not commit. In contrast Reason's the opposite - it's incredibly flexible too, but things very quickly get super complex, confusing and fiddly to edit anymore, so I have to let go and move on to next sound, sequence, etc.

I know it's stupid, but that's my experience.
Well, you certainly wont finish a track in Bitwig now :wink:

Hey, whatever works. It's all just software. :tu:

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What drives me crazy is and it's the same in Ableton. When you record a audio or midi clip it doesn't get mark or selected after recording so you can't quickly delete it or quantize it. Almost every Daw does that except bitwig and Ableton. Oh and the when you select a clip and then click on the track the clip gets marked in grey instead of black sometimes it's confusing because for example I want to delete the clip think it's selected but it's not and I delete the whole track instead.

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pdxindy wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:08 pm
_leras wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:07 pm Mainly I use the sampler for one hit percussive sounds, so for me more envelope choices, ideally where I can change the curve of each stage for more control, would probably be enough. If it could show the envelope curve, and better still the new shape of the sample even better.

Maybe a dedicated filter envelope (though I realise that's possible with some modulation)

Beyond that, it'd be things that are really more 'editing' things like your timestretch suggestion.. snap to zero option for start, end, loop etc. Normalise. Bit rate reduction perhaps.

Probably a bunch of stuff that already exists and I just don't know how to access it! :hihi:
Some good suggestions!

You can change the curve of the A, D and R stages of the Amp envelope.

But basically, when I want more control of the Sampler, I use it in the Grid.
How do you do that? drag the little slope things above the A D S R? if so that's great - and also annoyingly hidden! :hihi:

I'll have a crack at trying it in the grid - sounds like it could be really fun!

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antic604 wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:28 pm
pdxindy wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:17 pm Why did you uninstall it?
Honestly, since early 2018 when I first installed it I haven't finished a single track, despite having few dozens of ones that are 1/2 - 2/3 ready... I think I just get exhausted with all the options Bitwig gives (for my music & workflow). In some way it makes it easy for me to never finish anything, because I can endlessly tweak things and not commit. In contrast Reason's the opposite - it's incredibly flexible too, but things very quickly get super complex, confusing and fiddly to edit anymore, so I have to let go and move on to next sound, sequence, etc.

I know it's stupid, but that's my experience.
Did you actually finish tracks in other DAWs?

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_leras wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:41 pmDid you actually finish tracks in other DAWs?
Yes, in Ableton and Reason.
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_leras wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:40 pm How do you do that? drag the little slope things above the A D S R? if so that's great - and also annoyingly hidden! :hihi:

I'll have a crack at trying it in the grid - sounds like it could be really fun!
Yup, the little slope things. They are modulatable also.

In the Grid, you can use any of the envelopes, trigger them as you wish, add any filter, etc.

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