Plogue OPS7 (bit-accurate DX7 emulation!)

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KVRAF
3094 posts since 18 May, 2003 from Sweden

Post Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:16 am

abernathy wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:07 am
Bought and love the sound of this! Identical patches sound very different than Dexed... I don't have a DX7 to compare it to, but I like the sound of OPS7 much more. Haven't compared to Arturia yet.

I want to get off on the right foot understanding Patch/Preset saving. If I load a .syx bank in the SYX screen and copy them all into the A column I can play them all but it seems like more of a "preview" mode...? To properly save a sound would I need to save it as a "fermata" preset? If I wanted the whole DX7 factory ROM1A bank in OPS7 would I need to save each patch as a preset, one at a time? If I go to this trouble I'll certainly share the fruits of my labor...

Thanks!
This is one aspect of OPS7 that needs to be radically simplified and semiautomated or 'macrofied' ASAP, IMHO.

For the Mac, perhaps somebody versed in Keyboard Maestro could write a macro?
If it were easy, anybody could do it!

KVRAF
8877 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:59 am

Very nice DX-7. I have Dexed and never use it but I much prefer this layout. Speaking of which, the UI seems very nice to me. Don't get the complaints. My only feedback regarding the GUI is that I might want slightly finer increments of sizes (10% increments versus 25% so I could get a 10% or 120% zoom) and slightly thicker parameter indicators (on the knobs themselves but also the ring around them).

Question: can FX be re-ordered? I think I'd prefer the more traditional Delay into Reverb versus the opposite.

Also, a global FX bypass in the top menu bar would be nice too!

And maybe it's already there and I just haven't found a good way yet, but can we copy A to B or vice versa? Copy/paste would be nice for creating big layers then detuning between them.

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KVRAF
32812 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:20 pm

How do I save the zoom level and turn off keyboard as default?

And where are user presets supposed to go? I tried saving a patch and it actually took me initially to my Omnisphere preset folder (because that had been the last plugin I'd saved a preset in).

KVRian
807 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal

Post Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:30 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:20 pm
How do I save the zoom level and turn off keyboard as default?

And where are user presets supposed to go? I tried saving a patch and it actually took me initially to my Omnisphere preset folder (because that had been the last plugin I'd saved a preset in).
Please try "save as default" when clicking in the top preset menu after your custom setup is done. The only thing it fails to save is the MTS-ESP flag that we know. Next instance/session should start with those defaults (unless you recall an old session that has other settings)

As far as user presets it should popup at the right place. That on Mac?
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KVRAF
32812 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:32 pm

davidv@plogue wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:30 pm
aMUSEd wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:20 pm
How do I save the zoom level and turn off keyboard as default?

And where are user presets supposed to go? I tried saving a patch and it actually took me initially to my Omnisphere preset folder (because that had been the last plugin I'd saved a preset in).
Please try "save as default" when clicking in the top preset menu after your custom setup is done. The only thing it fails to save is the MTS-ESP flag that we know. Next instance/session should start with those defaults (unless you recall an old session that has other settings)

As far as user presets it should popup at the right place. That on Mac?
Thanks - yes on Mac - so where should I be saving user presets?

I assumed the 'save as default' related to presets not GUI state given that it's in the preset menu.

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KVRAF
4543 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Post Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:22 pm

Really don't understand all the bickering about the gui .
It's fine as it is , sure a graphical representation of all the algo's would be welcome.
Good job Plogue !
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KVRAF
9152 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo

Post Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:36 pm

Is there a way to easily copy envelopes from one to another?
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KVRAF
21908 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:46 pm

No, or not yet, time will tell.

Or linking the envelopes would also be nice (this is one really nice feature that FM8 has, you can link any number of envelopes and edit them together in one go, without needing to manually copy/paste envelopes).

KVRist
146 posts since 5 Sep, 2011

Post Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:16 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:46 pm
No, or not yet, time will tell.

Or linking the envelopes would also be nice (this is one really nice feature that FM8 has, you can link any number of envelopes and edit them together in one go, without needing to manually copy/paste envelopes).
Yeah this is a nice feature in fm8 but it's really clunky and there's no undo in Fm8 so if you mess up its really a nightmare :lol:

Something I like is the macro (Easy/Morph) section where you can tweak the overall patch as a whole, Ableton operator has this feature also as (Time/Tone)

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KVRAF
5867 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Post Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:01 pm

Can anyone recommend a decent -- but small! -- collection of SYX files? It seems like wherever I look there are collections with 5700 presets of which 4100 are duplicates and most of the unique ones are just variations of electric pianos. :D

(And yeah, I'm not normally into presets, but I also don't normally have a DX7, so... heh)

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KVRAF
6211 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:09 pm

Did you listen to all these thousands?
When I had the real machine, I learned the lesson that creating the sounds myself is faster than wading through hundreds of presets...; - )

KVRist
79 posts since 31 Oct, 2015

Post Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:31 pm

I’ll wait for the demo to make my mind. Regarding the UI : is the only way to display the « detailled » view is to click on the « macro » view ? If so you spend a lot of time going back and forth switching operators detailled views ?

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KVRAF
32812 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:48 pm

foosnark wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:01 pm
Can anyone recommend a decent -- but small! -- collection of SYX files? It seems like wherever I look there are collections with 5700 presets of which 4100 are duplicates and most of the unique ones are just variations of electric pianos. :D

(And yeah, I'm not normally into presets, but I also don't normally have a DX7, so... heh)
Actually Dexed comes with just such a curated collection - I just copied those across to a shared folder

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KVRAF
10428 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Post Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:13 am

foosnark wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:01 pm
Can anyone recommend a decent -- but small! -- collection of SYX files? It seems like wherever I look there are collections with 5700 presets of which 4100 are duplicates and most of the unique ones are just variations of electric pianos. :D

(And yeah, I'm not normally into presets, but I also don't normally have a DX7, so... heh)
The collection curated by BlackWinny for DeXed is the best you can find, IMO. You will find it here: http://hsjp.eu/downloads/Dexed/Dexed_cart_1.0.zip

It isn't small, but it is supposed to get rid of all duplicates.

And aMUSEd beat me to it :hihi:
Fernando (FMR)

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KVRAF
4543 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Post Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:22 am

I have a problem loading my own patches in each layer
For sysex stuff it's just simply a matter of drag dropping into column layer A, B
But how to achieve this for your own custom patches ?
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