Just My Learning MSF Thread

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KVRist
410 posts since 12 May, 2019

Post Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:21 am

Since I keep posting I might as well keep it all in one thread. I'm sharing because I'm coming at this as a new user who has a little experience with synths but not a ton. Maybe some of these ideas will be useful.

For this post, I was thinking that the Random modulator might benefit from a tempo sync option.

Thanks.

KVRist

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410 posts since 12 May, 2019

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:58 am

Hi. I can't seem to get Voicing mode 'Polyphonic (1 per note)' to work. That mode and Polyphonic seem to behave exactly the same for me. When I play a single note twice in quick succession, I get overlap regardless of mode besides monophonic.

In the tutorial video #6, the button seems to work for the demonstrator. Mine isn't working like that. Anyone understand this and can help?

Here's the patch:

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KVRian
536 posts since 3 Jan, 2020

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:30 am

The description of 'Polyphonic (1 per note)' says that it terminates the note in the same way as it would when you release the key i.e. playing the full release stage of your note. It seems to be meant for sustain pedal usage.

KVRer
11 posts since 17 Apr, 2013 from Sverige

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:45 am

Hexspa wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:21 am

For this post, I was thinking that the Random modulator might benefit from a tempo sync option.

Thanks.
I struggled with this also, but the Modulator has to be synced - on the Normal tab. Then, check Synchronize to LFO on the Random tab - to have it stick to BPM defined - on the Normal tab, lol! Another confusing thing is that Phase (Normal tab) isn't set to 0 by default. Lots to trip over on this one, as I was searching for a way to make a Sample & Hold modulated filter cutoff. But, at last! Other than that, versatility rules. :party:
Last edited by jan-sandahl on Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:58 am, edited 1 time in total.

KVRer
11 posts since 17 Apr, 2013 from Sverige

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:47 am

Hexspa wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:58 am
Here's the patch:

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- Is this code usable as a preset somehow? :?

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KVRian
536 posts since 3 Jan, 2020

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:05 am

jan-sandahl wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:47 am
- Is this code usable as a preset somehow? :?
viewtopic.php?f=138&t=563690

KVRer
11 posts since 17 Apr, 2013 from Sverige

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:57 am

Indeed... Thank you, Held! :pray:

KVRist

Topic Starter

410 posts since 12 May, 2019

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:26 pm

Held wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:30 am
The description of 'Polyphonic (1 per note)' says that it terminates the note in the same way as it would when you release the key i.e. playing the full release stage of your note. It seems to be meant for sustain pedal usage.
Ok, thanks Held. I think it's definitely meant for a sustain pedal. I was thinking that it would terminate the decay stage as well as the release stage but it doesn't seem to do either.

KVRist

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410 posts since 12 May, 2019

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:33 pm

jan-sandahl wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:45 am
Hexspa wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:21 am

For this post, I was thinking that the Random modulator might benefit from a tempo sync option.

Thanks.
I struggled with this also, but the Modulator has to be synced - on the Normal tab. Then, check Synchronize to LFO on the Random tab - to have it stick to BPM defined - on the Normal tab, lol! Another confusing thing is that Phase (Normal tab) isn't set to 0 by default. Lots to trip over on this one, as I was searching for a way to make a Sample & Hold modulated filter cutoff. But, at last! Other than that, versatility rules. :party:
Hi Jan. This is helpful; it actually answered a question I didn't think of. I believe you're referring to the global modulators from the Meters and Utilities panel.

Forgive me, I did not specify that I was referring to the Per-Voice Random Modulator. For that, the only modulation target is the Level.

Thanks for the help, everyone. MSF is really something but, without standard-type documentation, I find it hard to distinguish features among broken, does something else, or I just don't understand it yet.

Hopefully the more posts about it we get on here, the easier it will be to search for and find answers.

Cheers.

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