I have been working on the filters, but the fun feature isn't yet released in 11.1, but hopefully in a future update.billcarroll wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:18 am Live 11.1 Beta lists the following …
“The Cytomic Filters, which are used in the Wavetable, Echo, Simpler, Sampler, Operator, and Auto Filter devices, have been updated and improved in stability, sound and performance. As of 11.1, the Cytomic filters (particularly the MS2 and SMP options) might deviate in sound compared to previous Live versions, especially when driven hard.”
Wavetable is also getting some filter updates and a lower quality option to save CPU.
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Live by default won't ever have the HD modes of any Cytomic plugins in Live or Live Suite unless Cytomic can get a per license payment somehow. I have discussed with Ableton a possible licensing and integration of the HD filters for people that own The Drop, or someone can buy off Ableton the HD versions of the filters as an add-on, and then they also get The Drop, but nothing has come of that yet.
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Well, this is good news. Great to hear more Cytomic is making its way into Ableton Liveandy-cytomic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:15 amI have been working on the filters, but the fun feature isn't yet released in 11.1, but hopefully in a future update.billcarroll wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:18 am Live 11.1 Beta lists the following …
“The Cytomic Filters, which are used in the Wavetable, Echo, Simpler, Sampler, Operator, and Auto Filter devices, have been updated and improved in stability, sound and performance. As of 11.1, the Cytomic filters (particularly the MS2 and SMP options) might deviate in sound compared to previous Live versions, especially when driven hard.”
Wavetable is also getting some filter updates and a lower quality option to save CPU.
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So these are optimized/updated versions of the MD filters.andy-cytomic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:18 amLive by default won't ever have the HD modes of any Cytomic plugins in Live or Live Suite unless Cytomic can get a per license payment somehow. I have discussed with Ableton a possible licensing and integration of the HD filters for people that own The Drop, or someone can buy off Ableton the HD versions of the filters as an add-on, and then they also get The Drop, but nothing has come of that yet.
Fine be me, The Drop is anyway much more versatile in use and has a better interface.
I mostly use the Clean version of the Auto-Filter in Live, which afaik, you did, too..
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That sounds interesting. So there is a update to Wavetable coming? Is there a list of the fiter models used in the Drop?andy-cytomic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:15 amI have been working on the filters, but the fun feature isn't yet released in 11.1, but hopefully in a future update.billcarroll wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:18 am Live 11.1 Beta lists the following …
“The Cytomic Filters, which are used in the Wavetable, Echo, Simpler, Sampler, Operator, and Auto Filter devices, have been updated and improved in stability, sound and performance. As of 11.1, the Cytomic filters (particularly the MS2 and SMP options) might deviate in sound compared to previous Live versions, especially when driven hard.”
Wavetable is also getting some filter updates and a lower quality option to save CPU.
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Should be in the manual. https://cytomic.com/files/TheDrop-Manual.pdf page 11Biome_Digital wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:45 amThat sounds interesting. So there is a update to Wavetable coming? Is there a list of the fiter models used in the Drop?andy-cytomic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:15 amI have been working on the filters, but the fun feature isn't yet released in 11.1, but hopefully in a future update.billcarroll wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:18 am Live 11.1 Beta lists the following …
“The Cytomic Filters, which are used in the Wavetable, Echo, Simpler, Sampler, Operator, and Auto Filter devices, have been updated and improved in stability, sound and performance. As of 11.1, the Cytomic filters (particularly the MS2 and SMP options) might deviate in sound compared to previous Live versions, especially when driven hard.”
Wavetable is also getting some filter updates and a lower quality option to save CPU.
There are I think 2 additional models, the info should also be in "the drop" l thread.
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Oh yeah, that's actually got a load of details I didn't expect, eg:dermage wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:02 amShould be in the manual. https://cytomic.com/files/TheDrop-Manual.pdf page 11Biome_Digital wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:45 amThat sounds interesting. So there is a update to Wavetable coming? Is there a list of the fiter models used in the Drop?andy-cytomic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:15 amI have been working on the filters, but the fun feature isn't yet released in 11.1, but hopefully in a future update.billcarroll wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:18 am Live 11.1 Beta lists the following …
“The Cytomic Filters, which are used in the Wavetable, Echo, Simpler, Sampler, Operator, and Auto Filter devices, have been updated and improved in stability, sound and performance. As of 11.1, the Cytomic filters (particularly the MS2 and SMP options) might deviate in sound compared to previous Live versions, especially when driven hard.”
Wavetable is also getting some filter updates and a lower quality option to save CPU.
There are I think 2 additional models, the info should also be in "the drop" l thread.
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The drop is by my ears, by far the best filter plugin available. No wonder these filters are used in live and serum,but they're even much better in the drop.
But this still the scream thread right?
But this still the scream thread right?
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What's used in Serum??
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Some of the Serum filters are Andrew's early designs, but none of them are from The Drop as far as i know.
But i haven't been following Serum's development, so maybe it's also featuring The Drop filters now.
But i haven't been following Serum's development, so maybe it's also featuring The Drop filters now.
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I always thought serums filters were pretty good anyway. Anyone know what the new filters in the drop are modelled after? The ones not in the manual.
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Let's move all this over to the thread on The DropBiome_Digital wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:45 am That sounds interesting. So there is a update to Wavetable coming? Is there a list of the fiter models used in the Drop?
The Glue, The Drop - www.cytomic.com
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Ah perfect, thanks!dermage wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:00 pm Found this for you
As said, in "The Drop" thread
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