One Synth Challenge #152: WhispAir by Full Bucket Music (Aiynzahev Wins!)

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I think it is 21dB. Hint: The respective button is labeled "Volume". :hihi:
That's not as master volume control, it only adjusts the patch volume. It's not a problem, just seems a shame to be distorting and clipping straight out the box so to speak.

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@Bjorn/Full-Bucket
I'm on MacOS Catalina and have latest AU in Logic X of WhispAir. Controls are kinda being slow in the GUI for me. Should I try an older version?

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About the wavetable rules stuff...
1.) Go to Waveosaur
2.) Create new empty file - choose size 2048 samples (i.e. size of a single cycle per definition)
3.) Then for example tools > synthesize > frequency sweep > exponential
4.) Result see picture 1

Is using sample editors facilities(*) to handcraft single cycles of 2048 samples, all starting from emty files an option? It's not a vocal, it's not recorded from an instrument... is it "i.e."?
Opinions?
Waveosaur.Synthesize.png
Second example is a single cycle of 2048 samples consisting of one sine cycle and two saw cycles created with waevosaur. You have to choose 43.06 Hz to get a single sine cycle into 1024 samples btw...
Waveosaur.Synthesize2.png
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a.) Using basic sines or sine based stuff created by audio editor,
b.) basic noise created by audio editor,
c.) using AKWF FREE single cycles
d.) using basic waveforms from whispair itself
e.) manipulating each of the 2048 samples of an single cycle by the drawing tool of an audio editor (paint new samples, remove samples, silence regions, move regions)
f.) blending basic single cycle waveforms as in a.) - e.) with basic audio editor tools like fade-in or fade-out.
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mmGhost wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:36 pm @Bjorn/Full-Bucket
I'm on MacOS Catalina and have latest AU in Logic X of WhispAir. Controls are kinda being slow in the GUI for me. Should I try an older version?
Try the "METAL" version. Even my Mac mini on High Sierra works fine with it.

Cheers, Björn

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So I didn't get anywhere last month either. New month, new ideas. Learning from my mistakes, I took a basic sketch I already had (rhodes & drums) and Whispair:ed it and built from there. I doubt I will have the time to practice and perform pretty much anything in one month so my new concept is to have these songs quantized for the competition and then rerecord them without limitations once the month is over (if the track is good enough that is).

Cubase crashed on me once again, but after importing everything into Reaper, cursing Reaper for a few hours and facepalming a few times, I have a decent demo to show you. Oh and by the way, the Pianet patch in this synth is just so awesome! Very nice balance between organic electric piano and dreamy synthesizer piano.

TL:DR, I would very much like to hear any thoughts on my demo below, what would you add, change, remove? Thanks!

https://soundcloud.com/thefrozen-sea/al ... cb497e083e

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I have updated WhispAir to version 1.0.4:
  • improved plug-in load time
  • added a new wave table 8)
https://www.fullbucket.de/music/whispair.html

Cheers, Björn

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] Peter:H [ wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:00 am Is using sample editors facilities(*) to handcraft single cycles of 2048 samples, all starting from emty files an option? It's not a vocal, it's not recorded from an instrument... is it "i.e."?
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Totally acceptable imo.

Another thing: free wavetable editors can be found here ( Blofeld wavetable creator )and here: https://wusik.com/Audio-Term-by-Mathias-p384772988. For info on the latter go here . When using Audio-Term, the Serum format works best.

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I still don't understand the limitations on wavetables, single loops and other terminology well... If I take wavetables from Surge and use them in WhispAir, is it allowed?

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Hi, I'm new here and exited to try this out! Has anyone else noticed weird things with WhispAir's cutoff filter? If I move the LP12 cutoff from low to high, and then back to the same low value some of the notes that triggered before don't trigger. If I play around with the attack and delay of the Amplifier EG, it sometimes fixes it.

Am I doing something wrong or is this weird? I've attached a hopefully helpful screenshot.
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Yes, there's some bug/weird cutoff behaviour on a single note every now and then and I'm getting weird random clicks like the oscillator isn't attacking cleanly in the amplifier. It seems to only do it until max polyphony is reached, then it doesn't do it again. At the moment I just make sure I begin the track maxing out polyphony before the song starts.

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hockinsk3 wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:10 pm Yes, also there's some bug/weird cutoff behaviour on a single note every now and then and I'm getting weird random clicks like the oscillator isn't attacking cleanly in the amplifier. It seems to only do it until max polyphony is reached, then it doesn't do it again. At the moment I just make sure I begin the track maxing out polyphony before the song starts.

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ELEX wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:46 pm
] Peter:H [ wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:00 am Is using sample editors facilities(*) to handcraft single cycles of 2048 samples, all starting from emty files an option? It's not a vocal, it's not recorded from an instrument... is it "i.e."?
Opinions?
Totally acceptable imo.

Another thing: free wavetable editors can be found here ( Blofeld wavetable creator )and here: https://wusik.com/Audio-Term-by-Mathias-p384772988. For info on the latter go here . When using Audio-Term, the Serum format works best.
Thx, ELEX :tu: Let's wait and get little more opinions... not that there's again a "a**h**" slacky slack thread started elswhere.

AudioTerm is only for the nerdiest of all nerdy dare devils ... in terms of wavetables. I mean - my deepest respect to the original creators (It was started as DOS software for Ensoniq Transwave Sampler according to the Facebook page) that this software is based on and the guys that transfered the green screen into the 21 century ;-)
When I was nerding for Vital I found that there's a 1024-per-cycle fork of Wave-Edit:https://forum.vital.audio/t/any-program ... -slot/4458. It should be possible to simply "resample" and get 2048-per-cycle... or somebody do a fork and change the constant in the code to "2048"?

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scorkla wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:35 pm Am I doing something wrong or is this weird? I've attached a hopefully helpful screenshot.
Set the VCF EG to "ON"... you have it at "OFF".

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