Opinion: Best mini keyboard controller for Bitwig

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I had a Arturia KeyLab 61 and never could get good integration with Bitwig, so I replaced it with a Nektar T6 which works perfectly with Bitwig. Now I'm looking to get a mini-keyboard controller for use with Bitwig on my new laptop.

I've been looking at the usual suspects - Akai MPK Mini MK3, Novation Launchkey 25 MK3 and the Arturia MiniLab MK2. I know the other two controllers mentioned are fully supported by Driven By Moss - question is has the Arturia keyboard support for Bitwig improved?

Further are there any other (slimline) mini-keyboard controllers out there that have good Bitwig support that I haven't mentioned??

Thank you all!
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My best is a Sensel with a custom MPE layout. Can‘t beat that.
Maybe not for keyboarders though… For those a Seaboard block might fit better…

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M32 is on sale right now and recently received native integration with Bitwig. I like it a lot.

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... ntrol-m32/

https://www.bitwig.com/learnings/new-in ... llers-142/
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Tj Shredder wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:29 pm My best is a Sensel with a custom MPE layout. Can‘t beat that.
Maybe not for keyboarders though… For those a Seaboard block might fit better…
Downside the Sensel morph has been sold out for over six months, so that's a total non-starter although it was one of my early first choices.
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antic604 wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:36 pm M32 is on sale right now and recently received native integration with Bitwig. I like it a lot.

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... ntrol-m32/

https://www.bitwig.com/learnings/new-in ... llers-142/
Noice! Didn't know that NI had made a tiny controller - will research! Thanks!
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jcolyer0620 wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:58 pmNoice! Didn't know that NI had made a tiny controller - will research! Thanks!
Yeah, it's pretty great but a bit "longer" than the usual suspect you've mentioned, but not as "deep" as them because it doesn't have any pads.

Launchkey Mini Mk3 might be unbeatable when it comes to versality, covering playing stuff, launching clips and controlling devices:

https://novationmusic.com/en/keys/launchkey-mini
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CME Xkey. Sleek with poly aftertouch.

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antic604 wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:36 pm M32 is on sale right now and recently received native integration with Bitwig. I like it a lot.

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... ntrol-m32/

https://www.bitwig.com/learnings/new-in ... llers-142/
Just beware them sharp corners! That's the only thing not to like about it :)
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minortom wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:47 amJust beware them sharp corners! That's the only thing not to like about it :)
I assume that's on purpose - as a mobile controller you can use it for self defence, or as a set-quare and ruler! :hihi:
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antic604 wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:54 am
minortom wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:47 amJust beware them sharp corners! That's the only thing not to like about it :)
I assume that's on purpose - as a mobile controller you can use it for self defence, or as a set-quare and ruler! :hihi:
"Built like a weapon" is a nice characteristic.

But it is still able to control only KK plugins (moss or native), right?

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minortom wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:18 am But it is still able to control only KK plugins (moss or native), right?
No, the native support added few weeks ago also allows you to control the remotes for each device. Frankly I've not tried yet how well it works, though :oops:
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antic604 wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:20 am
minortom wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:18 am But it is still able to control only KK plugins (moss or native), right?
No, the native support added few weeks ago also allows you to control the remotes for each device. Frankly I've not tried yet how well it works, though :oops:
Really? Because it didn't for me, would love to know how to get that to work.

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I own a Keylab 49MK2 and the Bitwig native integration is almost perfect for me. The only hiccup was assigning controls to faders in Daw mode. Switching to to user mode solves this problem.

The native support on the M32 works well out of the box. The knobs control track volume and panning by default. Pressing shift + plugin switches control to Bitwig remote knobs. With the Komplete Kontrol plugin, there is another mode for it you can switch to.

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minortom wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:38 amReally? Because it didn't for me, would love to know how to get that to work.
If you add M32 native script in Settings there's a white circle with question mark icon in top-left corner. Click that and it will open a user manual for the script (that works for most scripts, BTW).

As @shenrei said, Shift + Plugin switches to device control mode.
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shenrei wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:59 am I own a Keylab 49MK2 and the Bitwig native integration is almost perfect for me. The only hiccup was assigning controls to faders in Daw mode. Switching to to user mode solves this problem.

The native support on the M32 works well out of the box. The knobs control track volume and panning by default. Pressing shift + plugin switches control to Bitwig remote knobs. With the Komplete Kontrol plugin, there is another mode for it you can switch to.
All Shift+Plugin does on my M32 is switch it to MIDI mode.

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