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BONES · Post by **BONES** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:14 am

There are links to the upgrade at the bottom of the product page. And given how well Rosetta works, I don't see any reason to be overly proactive in letting people know about native M1 support. It's not like the older version is unusable, is it?

Ploki · Post by **Ploki** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:32 am

BONES wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:14 am There are links to the upgrade at the bottom of the product page. And given how well Rosetta works, I don't see any reason to be overly proactive in letting people know about native M1 support. It's not like the older version is unusable, is it?

Rosetta works well, but native works better.
What’s your angle here, except “i hate apple”?
Dmitry let people know about M1.
I personally only bought it cause i could get the M1 version, else I wouldnt have.
Also because its good to know you can get support outside PA’s garbage ecosystem.

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:42 am

Teksonik wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:11 pm
LeVzi wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:01 am Thorn is a cool synth, but I pray that if it gets a V2 update, the GUI doesn't go the same way Tantra did. Same for Diversion, I love the GUI's as they are tbh, probably my favourite GUIs of all plugins.
Crap I didn't see this thread was bumped or I wouldn't have started the other one.

From the Voger Design FB page but back in February. (No that's not me making the guess).

Thorn.png

That's more encouraging. So if Thorn gets the old treatment for the GUI, why didn't tantra ? Strange decision imo.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:10 am

Ploki wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:32 amRosetta works well, but native works better.
What’s your angle here, except “i hate apple”?

My angle is that it's not worth worrying about, that you are making problems for yourself unnecessarily.

I personally only bought it cause i could get the M1 version, else I wouldnt have.

See what I mean? It works, doesn't it? So why worry? I could understand carrying on like a pork chop if you actually had a problem that prevented you from using the thing you paid for but life's way too f**king short to sweat this kind of inconsequential shit. Just fire up Thorn and enjoy all it has to offer.

P.S. As I've explained before, I don't hate Apple, it's the idiots who put up with the way Apple treat their customers who give me the shits, because when other companies see what Apple get away with, they think they can do the same. e.g. Windows 11. For the first time I can think of, Microsoft have arbitrarily removed features for no reason, at least one of which I use on a fairly regular basis.

Ploki · Post by **Ploki** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:13 am

BONES wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:10 am See what I mean? It works, doesn't it? So why worry? I could understand carrying on like a pork chop if you actually had a problem that prevented you from using the thing you paid for but life's way too f**king short to sweat this kind of inconsequential shit. Just fire up Thorn and enjoy all it has to offer.

because running native sessions works better? Why would i bother with rosetta if i don't have to, and if Dmitry himself is advertising native Apple Silicon support?
It took me 3min to drop him a line and it took him 3min for him to reply with m1 binaries and it took me 30s to buy the thing - literally everyone except you is happier

LeVzi wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:42 am
That's more encouraging. So if Thorn gets the old treatment for the GUI, why didn't tantra ? Strange decision imo.

That's just thorn v1 design tho :/
https://vogerdesign.com

i dont think it means anything.

Has anyone even asked dmitry whats up with Tantra2 ?

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:26 am

Ploki wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:13 am
BONES wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:10 am See what I mean? It works, doesn't it? So why worry? I could understand carrying on like a pork chop if you actually had a problem that prevented you from using the thing you paid for but life's way too f**king short to sweat this kind of inconsequential shit. Just fire up Thorn and enjoy all it has to offer.
because running native sessions works better? Why would i bother with rosetta if i don't have to, and if Dmitry himself is advertising native Apple Silicon support?
It took me 3min to drop him a line and it took him 3min for him to reply with m1 binaries and it took me 30s to buy the thing - literally everyone except you is happier

LeVzi wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:42 am
That's more encouraging. So if Thorn gets the old treatment for the GUI, why didn't tantra ? Strange decision imo.
That's just thorn v1 design tho :/
https://vogerdesign.com

i dont think it means anything.

Has anyone even asked dmitry whats up with Tantra2 ?

My bad, I thought it was a pending update or something. tbh looking at his work why DS wanted to deviate is beyond me, unless there's some kind of restrictions behind the scenes we are not privvy to. Anyway, that's their business. I just love DS Audios (Original) GUI's for Thorn , Tantra and Diversion.

Ploki · Post by **Ploki** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:32 am

BONES wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:10 am
P.S. As I've explained before, I don't hate Apple, it's the idiots who put up with the way Apple treat their customers who give me the shits, because when other companies see what Apple get away with, they think they can do the same. e.g. Windows 11. For the first time I can think of, Microsoft have arbitrarily removed features for no reason, at least one of which I use on a fairly regular basis.

Oh no, apple gave me performance of 2 computers for the price of 1. f**king apple f**k them.
And yes it's apple's fault microsoft is changing
hey, maybe it's microsoft's fault apple used arm - microsoft did it first?

or maybe, just maybe, this drivel you're posting is f**king pointless.

simple - don't update to windows 11 then. According to you, you shouldn't have to anyway. I do wonder, what did they remove? Haven't used windows in a good while

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:15 pm

EDIT: I stand corrected. I was wrong.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:17 pm

Looks almost identical. I figure it IS Thorn 2.

I also figure that it will have the new filters in Tantra 2.

So many figures.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:25 pm

EDIT: I stand corrected. I was wrong.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:31 pm

Teksonik wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:25 pm
chk071 wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:17 pm Looks almost identical.
If you don't actually look at it....notice the placement of the Pan and Volume knobs in relation to the waveform display and so on....

Apaprenty these knobs belong to ocs 2 and the waveform above them belongs to osc1 (I also thought at fisrt they had turned it upside down, but no)

The keytrack knob seems to have gone somewhere though

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:45 pm

Yes you're right that's Osc 2. Oh well I still think they look different and again yes that's a render.

I just found it odd that Voger would post a render earlier this year of a synth that's been out for so long.

EDIT: I just found an image of the full render and I stand corrected that is a render of Thorn 1.

Shame since the render as is most often the case looks much better than the plugin GUI does...

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:51 pm

Teksonik wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:25 pm
chk071 wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:17 pm Looks almost identical.
If you don't actually look at it....notice the placement of the Pan and Volume knobs in relation to the waveform display and so on....

At first, I thought so as well, but, as recursive one mentioned, it's simply OSC 2.

Ok, the colour is a bit different as well. But, the layout is very similar.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:53 pm

As I said in my edit above I found the full render so yes that's Thorn 1.

https://vogerdesign.com/pages/portfolio ... llery]/29/

Not sure why Voger posted the render earlier this year but there you have it.....

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:54 pm

The full pic is here
https://vogerdesign.com/pages/portfolio ... llery]/29/

The only difference to the current GUI I've spotted is that the oscillaotrs don't have thr keytrack knob

Thorn: Dmitry Sches' new synth!