Why the iLok hate?
- KVRAF
- 19817 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Bingo, you just hit the nail on the head. How much have to spent to protect someone else's intellectual property when your IP can't be similarly protected?MadDogE134 wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:11 pm i even upgraded my v2 dongle to v3 and i am planning on upgrading to the new v4 usb C pretty soon just for convenience. (just hate the price of the dongle lol)
As long as non-intrusive (and free) copy protection methods exist the iLok method will continue to be the victim of derision and rightfully so.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- KVRian
- 1075 posts since 26 Nov, 2007
got the v2 for free with a slate purchase years ago (it's what got me started on ilok dongle) and the $40 i spent on the v3 metal dongle sure saved me a lot of time and effort replacing licenses and contacting developers (if i had used just a machine pace authentication) when that lightening hit so i figure the $40 was well spent and i was not protecting 'their' (developers) intellectual property... i was protecting my right to use their product anywhere i choose without hassle and in a timely manner lol. now i do have a problem with the price increase for the new USB C dongle hence why i have not bought it thus far but it is a larger capacity along with the USB C connector... not to mention smaller than my v3.
you see anyone can justify their decisions be them good or bad. it is all in the perspective. beauty is only in the eye of the beholder.
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you see anyone can justify their decisions be them good or bad. it is all in the perspective. beauty is only in the eye of the beholder.
cheers
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- KVRAF
- 7085 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
My sig represents my feelings about copy protection. I feel so strongly about it that I use Linux. 
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- 19817 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
No, the cost was rolled into your purchase price. But then it can be said the cost of piracy is rolled into a product too along with the cost of third party CP methods.
I've paid exactly zero to protect the 500 plugins I own but again we don't know how much of the cost of any CP method is passed along to the consumer.
I've only had to reinstall my plugins once due to hardware failure in the last 20 years. I have upgraded systems several times by choice but the time comes from doing a fresh install of the software rather than authorizing it so a dongle wouldn't have saved me all that much time.
I don't need portability so a dongle would be of no use in that case.
Only about a dozen or so of those 500 plugins use the pace soft manager so even if those licenses were on a dongle the time savings would be minimal.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- KVRian
- 1075 posts since 26 Nov, 2007
lol $20 dongle + plugin on sale reg. $149... i got all for $49 plus free shipping ( i never pay retail) you can figure out where the cost lies. i personally think steven sucked up a loss (one way or the other) at the time to get people into his plugins since all his software needed ilok. it was 'as supplies last' sale so he probably purchased the dongles outright or got them on credit. but this is neither here nor there really. i am happy your happy and that is all that counts. now you can find someone else to argue with lol
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"two fools dancing on the hands of time... yeah the fool and me"
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