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spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:25 am

xRAVENx wrote:how about some coffee?

it can do coffee I believe.. use the cup holders

pitchdrifter · Post by **pitchdrifter** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:50 am

I meant.. anybody want some coffee.
Ya'll need to relax a bit I recon

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:54 am

xRAVENx wrote: Ya'll need to relax a bit I recon

Stuart_Middleton · Post by **Stuart_Middleton** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:05 pm

That`s either a tiny deckchair or one hell of a big pussy

deggy · Post by **deggy** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:44 pm

Spaceman, I knew what I was getting when I bought the software. That's true. I'm just pointing out how it could be a little better. That's all.

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:57 pm

deggy wrote:Spaceman, I knew what I was getting when I bought the software. That's true. I'm just pointing out how it could be a little better. That's all.

well.. all tools could be a bit better, they could, for instance, support everything and anyone and everything to come.. but the fact stays that as a company you set out your business plan and you plan your product accordingly (or visa versa). PH never meant to build a tool that can host VSTs so it's not even an issue. Why talk about VST all the time when your talking about a product that has nothing to do with VST? As I said before, if you want software you're not going to buy hardware and complain it's not software.

Cubase could be made better as well by having the same low CPU load as Reason, or it could support Logic projects, or full DX support, or have a tracker.. but the fact is.. it's not what Cubase is about. And the same reasoning goes for Reason.

Propellerhead would be in for a very tough ride if they had to rebuild Reason to support VSTs. Imagine all the dickheads complaining about some stupid freeware plug that doesn't run in Reason. But again.. this is not even an issue because it doesn't support VSTs and it never meant too and frankly, it's not needed.. Reason works perfectly as intended by the makers, no more, no less

if you want other specs, buy something else

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:48 pm

spaceman wrote:
xRAVENx wrote:how about some coffee?
it can do coffee I believe.. use the cup holders

And how am I supposed to put a CD in then, hmm, Mr. Smarty-Spacesuitpants? ;-)

Meffy

DHR53 · Post by **DHR53** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:54 pm

I'll settle for variable velocity in Redrum... (on the interface that is)...

P.S. have some of you idiots heard of Live?

Post by **Ben [KVR]** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:05 pm

spaceman wrote:
xg2 wrote:
deggy wrote:This bastard better be a vst loader or i (and i'm sure many of you) will be damn well pissed off. Even god damn fruity loops let's you load vsti's. How god damn long will it take.

It will only happen when enough people wise up and stop buying it. And when the mags. stop hyping it up as the next best thing, which will never happen.

I say - good luck to them. Let them keep it free from VST - no skin off my nose. It's just sad to watch newcomers to computer music being taken in by "the whole rack of synths" that Reason offers, when they don't know that just about every other program is far more powerful, simply because they support VST.

If any other music program came out, that didn't support VST, this negative point would be made very clear in every review of it, and it would get severely marked down because of it. i.e. "Lack of VST support" would be in bold letters, in the 'Cons' section.

Funny how Reason can do no wrong. But if people still buy it, then I can't blame the Props. for not changing it that much.

Deggy - vote with your mouse. Use another, VST compatible, program. Tell the Props. where to shove Reason.

I can see it all now...
Reason 3 comes out: the mags. (particularly that bastion of computer knowledge, Computer Music) praise it and hype it beyond all recognition. Another hundred thousand newcomers to music catch onto this hype and buy it. They then defend it like it's some new god, and go apeshit anybody points out its little 'problems'.
when will dickheads like you get it into their thick skulls that Reason is NOT a vst host so Propellerheads DON'T HAVE TO INCLUDE VST SUPPORT!! If you buy a car are you going to complain you can't fly it? If you buy a hardware synth are you going to complain you can load it as a VST in Cubase? If you buy a mixing desk, are you going to complain it can't make toast. Get it into your tiny little fuckhead brain.. Reason WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A VST HOST AND IT WILL NEVER BLOODY HAVE TOO BE ONE!!!

It's a workstation, a scratch book, a rewire client.. AND NOT A f**king VST HOST. If you want a vst host, get something else..
and unlike idiots like you, most people check the specs of a software before they buy it, so very little people will be surprised to see it hasn't got VST support. But I'm guessing you were one of the idiots who didn't bother checking that and so now you're pissing on propellerheads because of your own stupidity idiots

The astronaut has a great point here, and very eloquently made

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:06 pm

Well i cant wait to get my hands on the new beta

I also got tracktion, so audio recording and vst´s are not a big problem for me.

I just love reason for what it is

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:20 pm

Ben [KVR] wrote:
spaceman wrote:when will dickheads like you get it into their thick skulls that Reason is NOT a vst host so Propellerheads DON'T HAVE TO INCLUDE VST SUPPORT!! If you buy a car are you going to complain you can't fly it? If you buy a hardware synth are you going to complain you can load it as a VST in Cubase? If you buy a mixing desk, are you going to complain it can't make toast. Get it into your tiny little fuckhead brain.. Reason WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A VST HOST AND IT WILL NEVER BLOODY HAVE TOO BE ONE!!!

It's a workstation, a scratch book, a rewire client.. AND NOT A f**king VST HOST. If you want a vst host, get something else..
and unlike idiots like you, most people check the specs of a software before they buy it, so very little people will be surprised to see it hasn't got VST support. But I'm guessing you were one of the idiots who didn't bother checking that and so now you're pissing on propellerheads because of your own stupidity idiots
The astronaut has a great point here, and very eloquently made

I would normally use other language but I've got a terrible cold and I can't be bothered being nice today

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:20 pm

Meffy wrote:
spaceman wrote:
xRAVENx wrote:how about some coffee?
it can do coffee I believe.. use the cup holders
And how am I supposed to put a CD in then, hmm, Mr. Smarty-Spacesuitpants?

Meffy

it was never meant to support both at a time

Pouckypluysch · Post by **Pouckypluysch** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:31 pm

You can probably step-sequence which channel is being played

How can I do that in Cubase SX?

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:36 pm

spaceman wrote:it was never meant to support both at a time

So I guess Reason 3 won't include support for Very Strong Tea, odd Hi-Ho (snack cracker) input, or muddy output either.

*martyrly sigh* S'okay, it'll be tough but I'll Live.

Live 4 that is.

Meffy

scandipandy · Post by **scandipandy** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:39 pm

DHR53 wrote:P.S. have some of you idiots heard of Live?

Does it have CV i/o and sidechain ?

Guess not .......

It's time for REASON 3 beta testing ...