Any point in me getting Win11?

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kritikon
KVRAF
5562 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand

Post Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:16 pm

As the message says, really. Apparently my laptop and even our desktop (bought a 2nd hand ex-business PC for general household duties) are both compatible with Win11. I've had a quick look at the Win site and can't say I see anything that applies to me really - Win11 improvements seems to be all about connecting up to social media/remote crap and gaming. None of which I do or have any intention of doing. But I'm not against Win11 if it provides just general stability/usability improvements. I even surfed around Steinberg.net and they recommend not going for Win11 (at least not yet) as they haven't tested/tweaked compatibility with Cubase etc yet.

Anything else Win11 does that I missed, that I might want? (I'm not a coder in any way). Anybody had issues with Win11 and Steinberg programs? TBH my laptop is really only for music and for playing TV into the big telly in the lounge.

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The Noodlist
KVRAF
4427 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from South Yorkshire

Post Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:27 pm

I'd wait for issues to be resolved.
Windows 11 is slowing down more Ryzens, and more updates are on the way
https://www.randrlife.co.uk/windows-11- ... n-the-way/
Currently trying to turn noise into music. :neutral: Is boutique the new old?

rACatkvr
KVRist
58 posts since 10 Mar, 2009 from Australia

Post Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:51 pm

If it doesn’t offer any features you need or want, and your current system is stable, why bother?

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zerocrossing
KVRAF
11392 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area

Post Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:16 pm

The Noodlist wrote:
Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:27 pm
I'd wait for issues to be resolved.
Windows 11 is slowing down more Ryzens, and more updates are on the way
https://www.randrlife.co.uk/windows-11- ... n-the-way/
I’d avoid information from a writer that doesn’t understand the purpose of a question mark.
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BONES
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12586 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:12 pm

I read a review the other day that I found quite concerning. They have reduced the size of right-click menus for some weird reason and that means things that I've been doing for 20 years are gone, like right-clicking on the Taskbar to open Task Manager. In other places they have put extra entries in a flyout labelled "More" so some things that were previously a simple two-step process - right-click to bring up the menu and left click to select an option - are now fussy three click affairs.

I've been on the cutting edge for a decade now, since the first Windows 8 public betas went live, but I have no intention of updating to Windows 11 for the foreseeable future. It seems to me like a massively dumbed-down experience for the smartphone obsessed generation, at the expense of people who need to get shit done.
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CrystalWizard
KVRAF
1589 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit Sol III

Post Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:47 pm

^^^
gadgets an gizmos...make noise
https://soundcloud.com/crystalawareness

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zerocrossing
KVRAF
11392 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area

Post Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:56 pm

I think like any computer thing, if you’re in the mood to futz around, go for it. Make sure you do a full restore point, but see how it goes. If you actually want to make music, stick with what you have. I’ve heard that they did things to make it better for processing audio, so I’m curious. Bitwig supports it, but I’ve not yet seen a peep from UAD, so I’m going to wait until they make an official announcement.
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glokraw
KVRAF
8272 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:14 am

A used computer dedicated to 11 will be cheaper than your man-hours lost getting it into your old one, and then getting up top the learning curve, and then getting your software moved over.

Or maybe get an external bootable drive, if 11 can be installed on them without breaking the win 10 boot process.
Good luck!
My instrumental music is now on Spotify and the other streaming sites that Distrokid supplies, search Franklin Cheney, the song titles and cover art might offer a content clue, peace, energy, romantic, fun etc
Cheers

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audiojunkie
KVRAF
3089 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah

Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:50 am

Those of us who are on Arch have no need for Windows 11. ;-)
C/R, dongles & other intrusive copy protection equals less-control & more-hassle for consumers. Company gone-can’t authorize. Limit to # of auths. Instability-ie PACE. Forced internet auths. THE HONEST ARE HASSLED, NOT THE PIRATES.

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12586 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:14 pm

glokraw wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:14 am
A used computer dedicated to 11 will be cheaper than your man-hours lost getting it into your old one, and then getting up top the learning curve, and then getting your software moved over.
Windows isn't like Linux. All you have to do is initiate the update process, go and make yourself a cup of coffee and some toast with jam and when you get back to your computer Windows 11 will be waiting for you to log in. The learning curve will be practically zero because they've not made any big changes to the way anything works, beyond dumbing it down for morons.
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telecharge
KVRian
860 posts since 22 Feb, 2014

Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:00 pm

Written by a Linux enthusiast and someone who strikes me as somewhat of a Microsoft hater, but...
Computerworld wrote:If you're using Windows 11 Home, you must have both an Internet connection and a Microsoft account to run Windows 11 at all. No, Internet, no Microsoft account, no Windows 11. You can't set up a local user account or use your PC at all.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3 ... pdate.html

I'm not interested enough to confirm this, but maybe someone else is.

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BONES
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12586 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:08 pm

He is correct. Just as you do for any smartphone or tablet, you have to have an account and an internet connection for Windows 11. I assume that's so Microsoft can provide you with all the same conveniences you get from your smartphone, like storing passwords and log-ins across multiple devices, being able to start working on something on your phone and finishing it on your laptop and other stuff like that. I can't see any sinister intent in it.
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fedexnman
KVRAF
2896 posts since 4 Jan, 2005

Post Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:23 am

I'd wait it out . Wifes iPhone drops Bluetooth in the car after ios15.0.1 and 15.0.2 ... She says she hates Apple and threatened to banish all Apple from the house . Lolz . Oh and Windows11 ... The moral of my story is new shiny new releases are buggy . Wait it out maybe a year or 6 months ?

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T-CM11
KVRAF
2491 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from Ghent, Belgium

Post Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:42 am

BONES wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:08 pm
He is correct. Just as you do for any smartphone or tablet, you have to have an account and an internet connection for Windows 11.
You need an account for Home 11, not for Pro 11. But after that, you can just leave it offline.

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BONES
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12586 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:13 am

If you live in a cave.
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