Looking for this effect
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 17 posts since 15 Nov, 2011
Hi, I know my request may sound a little weird but let's go...
I'm running after a special reverb/delay for years now to put on my voice, I finally found a song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWwow4g ... 0r&index=2 where this special vocal effect is present at 0,29", especially this kind of discrete delay that comes after the reverb...
I have tried to join the singer who just told me it was made with Valhalla, but nothing more….
Could you help me out to find which reverb and delay is used to reach that special effect ?
Thanks in advance for your awesome help.
Dan
I'm running after a special reverb/delay for years now to put on my voice, I finally found a song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWwow4g ... 0r&index=2 where this special vocal effect is present at 0,29", especially this kind of discrete delay that comes after the reverb...
I have tried to join the singer who just told me it was made with Valhalla, but nothing more….
Could you help me out to find which reverb and delay is used to reach that special effect ?
Thanks in advance for your awesome help.
Dan
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- KVRAF
- 3982 posts since 20 Feb, 2004
Maybe a send with a high-passed, lightly saturated delay? Adjust feedback and delay time to match. Also, it seems that you might want to only have the send active on the last 2 or so words of the line.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 17 posts since 15 Nov, 2011
I'm on Logic, do you mean using send function better than insert plugin ?
Thanks
Thanks
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- KVRAF
- 3982 posts since 20 Feb, 2004
Yes, using a send bus allows you to separately process the delay's output (be sure to use 100% wet on the delay's settings). That's where you'll add the highpass filter and saturation. It also allows you to automate the send amount, so you only get delay on the last 2 words of the line (if that turns out to be what you want). (Instead of automating the send amount, you could also use multiple tracks with the last 2 words on the track with this delay send. Multiple ways to do this.)
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 17 posts since 15 Nov, 2011
I'm approaching, but still the delay attack is too much present and I can't do better..
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- KVRAF
- 1742 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 17 posts since 15 Nov, 2011
Nice one.ramseysounds wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:58 pm <span class="skimlinks-unlinked">https://youtu.be/K1ypjVcoXCA</span>
Still looking for though
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- KVRAF
- 1742 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
It shows the difference between insert and send effects, which it seems you was struggling to understand also. The delay just sounds sidechained to the main vocal to me
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 17 posts since 15 Nov, 2011
Yes it speaks to me..Do you mean side chain like a compressor and a voice that triggers it ?ramseysounds wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:55 pm It shows the difference between insert and send effects, which it seems you was struggling to understand also. The delay just sounds sidechained to the main vocal to me
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- KVRAF
- 1742 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
Yup
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
- Boss Lovin' DR
- 12621 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
Doing it with ducking (or sidechaining as is the vogue to call it these days) is one technique, but probably better for parts where it's more of a constant effect.
Easier way to do 'spot' effects like this is to duplicate the vocal track (after compression etc if you like) and run it at 100% wet through the desired effect(s) on another mixer channel - then mute the parts of the track you don't want.
Like so;
Top track is the main vocal and the others are various delays/harmonizers/other stuff I didn't label...
If you do it this way it's easier if you've got a lot of little effects flying in as 'fairy dust'
Easier way to do 'spot' effects like this is to duplicate the vocal track (after compression etc if you like) and run it at 100% wet through the desired effect(s) on another mixer channel - then mute the parts of the track you don't want.
Like so;
Top track is the main vocal and the others are various delays/harmonizers/other stuff I didn't label...
If you do it this way it's easier if you've got a lot of little effects flying in as 'fairy dust'
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- KVRAF
- 3982 posts since 20 Feb, 2004
Not 100% sure what you mean by the "delay attack"... You could try placing a gate with a somewhat slow attack time before the delay on your send track. Does that help?Danythedog wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:34 pm I'm approaching, but still the delay attack is too much present and I can't do better..
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 17 posts since 15 Nov, 2011
Very Interesting, but the effect I'm looking for is for live session.donkey tugger wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:25 pm Doing it with ducking (or sidechaining as is the vogue to call it these days) is one technique, but probably better for parts where it's more of a constant effect.
Easier way to do 'spot' effects like this is to duplicate the vocal track (after compression etc if you like) and run it at 100% wet through the desired effect(s) on another mixer channel - then mute the parts of the track you don't want.
Like so;
spotfx.jpg
Top track is the main vocal and the others are various delays/harmonizers/other stuff I didn't label...
If you do it this way it's easier if you've got a lot of little effects flying in as 'fairy dust'
Thanks
- KVRAF
- 1571 posts since 14 Jul, 2018
sounds to me like a regular delay (with an hipass) mixed with an independent reverb...
but:
maybe try a convolution ?
i just had a look at audioThing's FogConvolver which in its very first "aluminium foil" factory presets
has quite something similar (soft attack, washed out feeling...)...
concolution not only does reverb but also quite a lot other effects like delay for example
but sometimes in a quite special way...
https://www.audiothing.net/effects/fog-convolver/
but:
maybe try a convolution ?
i just had a look at audioThing's FogConvolver which in its very first "aluminium foil" factory presets
has quite something similar (soft attack, washed out feeling...)...
concolution not only does reverb but also quite a lot other effects like delay for example
but sometimes in a quite special way...
https://www.audiothing.net/effects/fog-convolver/
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 17 posts since 15 Nov, 2011
It's a good idea but not exactly what I'm looking for. It seems that I have to search towards early and late reflections, but not easy to come close...muki wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:25 am sounds to me like a regular delay (with an hipass) mixed with an independent reverb...
but:
maybe try a convolution ?
i just had a look at audioThing's FogConvolver which in its very first "aluminium foil" factory presets
has quite something similar (soft attack, washed out feeling...)...
concolution not only does reverb but also quite a lot other effects like delay for example
but sometimes in a quite special way...
https://www.audiothing.net/effects/fog-convolver/