TEOTE additionally to Gullfoss?

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KVRAF
6635 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Post Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:34 am

Hey guys i love Gullfoss slightly on my master with slight tweaking around 10 or so percentage.
I added TEOTE demo after it and wanted not to overdo it but it has some nice adding to my ears for some tests so far added around 20-30%. But i dunno if it is just bad mixing, wrong impression or if TEOTE works different and both combined seems nicely working.

What are your experiences? Is Gullfoss replacing TEOTE or vice versa or do you even think both complement each other well?
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KVRAF
5942 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Post Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:25 am

I never tried them together, but personally I got better results with TEOTE than Gullfoss.

KVRAF
4036 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder

Post Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:59 pm

As far as I know, 'Mastering' mode in TEOTE reduces the processing by half - although this isn't reflected in the GUI. So this can be misleading as it might look like you're overprocessing, but you're not. Correct me if I'm wrong about that.

Can't compare with Gulfoss as I've never tried it.

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KVRAF
3726 posts since 7 Sep, 2002

Post Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:17 pm

MogwaiBoy, you are not correct. What you see is what you get, irrespective of Mastering mode.
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KVRAF
4762 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia

Post Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:52 am

If my master went Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE, Gullfoss, TEOTE would I eventually get a replicated pink noise shape?
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KVRAF
4036 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder

Post Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:39 pm

Aleksey Vaneev wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:17 pm
MogwaiBoy, you are not correct. What you see is what you get, irrespective of Mastering mode.
Thank you! I happily stand corrected.

I didn't really notice a change between Mastering mode on/off visually.

Definitely a voodoo plugin. Works in ways I am only beginning to scratch the surface of understanding.

Instead of buying Gulfoss I bought Voxengo Premium Membership. I'm set for life :love:

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KVRAF
4642 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Post Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:13 pm

For mastering I prefer Gullfoss over TEOTE but will use both if I want a little more punch that TEOTE can offer. They both do different things and have a different effect. Gullfoss is meant to work beyond being a "goodizer" where-as TEOTE can be used subtly like Gullfoss or more overtly as an effect. I tend to use it in the latter "mode" during mixing and production. I have used it on the master for punch but only on very specific tracks. Because I like the way Gullfoss sounds and I have more experience using it for mastering I stick with it - I can't speak to using TEOTE as a Gullfoss substitute - some say they like it better, some say they dont, as it is with audio stuff. Try it the way you envision and if you think it sounds good, it sounds good (to you ;) ).

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KVRAF
3653 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:17 pm

tbh since I started using TEOTE I won't even look elsewhere. It just fits. It takes the bite out of crazy resonances and tames things that actually make them more pleasant on the ears. I max it out which seems to be the best way. Made a huge difference to me on my masters tbh.

Not saying its better than Gullfoss, because i've never used that, but for me, TEOTE fits like a glove on my mastering chain.
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KVRAF
1788 posts since 14 Sep, 2004 from $HOME

Post Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:00 pm

Both - more is always better!

KVRAF
4036 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder

Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:26 am

LeVzi wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:17 pm
tbh since I started using TEOTE I won't even look elsewhere. It just fits. It takes the bite out of crazy resonances and tames things that actually make them more pleasant on the ears. I max it out which seems to be the best way. Made a huge difference to me on my masters tbh.

Not saying its better than Gullfoss, because i've never used that, but for me, TEOTE fits like a glove on my mastering chain.
You max it out, 100%? And it doesn't sound really processed? :o Wow, do you have any examples? I'm interested to hear.

I find about 50% to be the limit, usually 10-30%. It is a magic plugin for sure - it's so deep.

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KVRAF
5942 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:40 am

I often max or almost max the FX amount. Boost Threshold is the one I'm more careful with (higher = less likely to boost stuff I don't want boosted).

For really nasty resonances I do still use manual EQ. TEOTE is good for "I wouldn't have even thought to cut there, but now it sounds better" stuff. But I'm also learning from it.

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KVRAF
3653 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:20 am

MogwaiBoy wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:26 am
LeVzi wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:17 pm
tbh since I started using TEOTE I won't even look elsewhere. It just fits. It takes the bite out of crazy resonances and tames things that actually make them more pleasant on the ears. I max it out which seems to be the best way. Made a huge difference to me on my masters tbh.

Not saying its better than Gullfoss, because i've never used that, but for me, TEOTE fits like a glove on my mastering chain.
You max it out, 100%? And it doesn't sound really processed? :o Wow, do you have any examples? I'm interested to hear.

I find about 50% to be the limit, usually 10-30%. It is a magic plugin for sure - it's so deep.
Yeah number of bands is max. Doesnt sound over processed at all.
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KVRist
236 posts since 30 Jul, 2017

Post Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:24 am

It's only my preference, but for some reason, I feel safer mixing into TEOTE rather than Gullfoss.

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KVRian
531 posts since 27 Aug, 2020

Post Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:54 am

foosnark wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:40 am
For really nasty resonances I do still use manual EQ. TEOTE is good for "I wouldn't have even thought to cut there, but now it sounds better" stuff. But I'm also learning from it.
The best description of TEOTE I've seen so far, pretty much this.

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KVRAF
3653 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:13 am

That's why I love Teote , it seems to just take care of stuff I'd miss

If anything is really THAT bad it's hard to miss .
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