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andypryce wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:19 am
It just needs a GUI re-design done by a sane person.
Seems like they are doing more than GUI re-designs with old plugins, so maybe they want to do something really special with Ultrabeat and Sculpture, especially having Camel guys behind it, really hope they will make something much more amazing out of new Ultrabeat.

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Passing Bye wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:39 pm
andypryce wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:19 am
It just needs a GUI re-design done by a sane person.
Seems like they are doing more than GUI re-designs with old plugins, so maybe they want to do something really special with Ultrabeat and Sculpture, especially having Camel guys behind it, really hope they will make something much more amazing out of new Ultrabeat.
Isn't Drum Machine Designer the new Ultrabeat? That was my impression anyway.

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pdxindy wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:05 am
Passing Bye wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:39 pm
andypryce wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:19 am
It just needs a GUI re-design done by a sane person.
Seems like they are doing more than GUI re-designs with old plugins, so maybe they want to do something really special with Ultrabeat and Sculpture, especially having Camel guys behind it, really hope they will make something much more amazing out of new Ultrabeat.
Isn't Drum Machine Designer the new Ultrabeat? That was my impression anyway.
I don't think they are going to do much with Ultrabeat going forward. Like you said DMD is it's replacement. In-fact in earlier versions (before they added the new samplers), it was literally just a skin or container for ultra beat. If you open an older project with DMD and open the Mixer you will see Ultrabeat setup as the plugin. DMD is much more versatile (more like Ableton's Drum Racks now) and much more flexible. Even the step/drum sequencer that Ultrabeat had is now pretty redundant. What it being a global thing in Logic now.

That being said there are some things Ultrabeat does that DMD doesn't do so I think they will keep it around even if they don't update it the UI on it.
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apoclypse wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:10 am That being said there are some things Ultrabeat does that DMD doesn't do so I think they will keep it around even if they don't update it the UI on it.
Perhaps they will add to Drum Machine Designer...

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you cant pull dmd into a stack.
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pdxindy wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:05 am
Passing Bye wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:39 pm
andypryce wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:19 am
It just needs a GUI re-design done by a sane person.
Seems like they are doing more than GUI re-designs with old plugins, so maybe they want to do something really special with Ultrabeat and Sculpture, especially having Camel guys behind it, really hope they will make something much more amazing out of new Ultrabeat.
Isn't Drum Machine Designer the new Ultrabeat? That was my impression anyway.
Hope not, as I already wrote, it would be cool to have more extensive Ultrabeat where you can get really deep into tweaking and layering.

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Ploki wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:52 am you cant pull dmd into a stack.
It's already a stack. It's not a "instrument" it's just a container and unfortunately in Logic you can't embed stacks within other summing stacks. It's annoying and I hope they address that as I like to keep everything pretty tidy and put everything in Folders to avoid visual clutter and also more easily manage busses.
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Passing Bye wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:14 am
pdxindy wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:05 am
Passing Bye wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:39 pm
andypryce wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:19 am
It just needs a GUI re-design done by a sane person.
Seems like they are doing more than GUI re-designs with old plugins, so maybe they want to do something really special with Ultrabeat and Sculpture, especially having Camel guys behind it, really hope they will make something much more amazing out of new Ultrabeat.
Isn't Drum Machine Designer the new Ultrabeat? That was my impression anyway.
Hope not, as I already wrote, it would be cool to have more extensive Ultrabeat where you can get really deep into tweaking and layering.
We can only speculate, but my guess is that Ultrabeat is out the door.

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Probably 🥺

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apoclypse wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:55 pm
Ploki wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:52 am you cant pull dmd into a stack.
It's already a stack. It's not a "instrument" it's just a container and unfortunately in Logic you can't embed stacks within other summing stacks. It's annoying and I hope they address that as I like to keep everything pretty tidy and put everything in Folders to avoid visual clutter and also more easily manage busses.
Exactly.
And that’s why i dont use it - i have all my drums and basses in a single stack.
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pdxindy wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:19 pm
Passing Bye wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:14 am
pdxindy wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:05 am
Passing Bye wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:39 pm
andypryce wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:19 am
It just needs a GUI re-design done by a sane person.
Seems like they are doing more than GUI re-designs with old plugins, so maybe they want to do something really special with Ultrabeat and Sculpture, especially having Camel guys behind it, really hope they will make something much more amazing out of new Ultrabeat.
Isn't Drum Machine Designer the new Ultrabeat? That was my impression anyway.
Hope not, as I already wrote, it would be cool to have more extensive Ultrabeat where you can get really deep into tweaking and layering.
We can only speculate, but my guess is that Ultrabeat is out the door.
There are too many Logic users still utilizing it. I'm guessing it'll get a GUI overhaul like EXS24 did.

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masterhiggins wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:32 am
pdxindy wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:19 pm We can only speculate, but my guess is that Ultrabeat is out the door.
There are too many Logic users still utilizing it. I'm guessing it'll get a GUI overhaul like EXS24 did.
Cool... let's see who ends up right :tu:

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Well, the immersive thing is very, very attractive to me. I watched it demoed by the VSL promo guy, Paul Kopf and you can totally hear it on headphones.
A slightly weird demo because they were using what sounded like a marimba part isolated from a cute arrangement of Winter Wonderland but it was an apt sound for noticing it moving around the audient.

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It would be awesome if Logic ever went on sale. It would be a long time before it could ever replace Ableton as my primary DAW. But I would like to have it for occasional things.

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At $199 and regular free major upgrades, it’s pretty much always on sale
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