Details like that will probably be revealed soon. Especially if Roland is proud of its' sound engine. Good to know it's not up to par. I haven't checked it.Gadget Fiend wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:29 am Geez, the guy from Roland spent practically half the video demoing the stupid Boutique sequencer rather then playing patches from the JX-08 so we can hear what it sounds like.
Speaking of sound quality, I wonder whether the JX-08 is using the JX-8P Zenology engine. I hope not because that sounds really weak and uninspiring.
PG-8X (2.0) released
-
michal.ochedowski michal.ochedowski https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=432708
- KVRist
- 107 posts since 31 Dec, 2018
-
Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 12442 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
EDIT: see my next post...Gadget Fiend wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:29 amGeez, the guy from Roland spent practically half the video demoing the stupid Boutique sequencer rather then playing patches from the JX-08 so we can hear what it sounds like.michal.ochedowski wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:42 am Meanwhile Roland decided to bring something new to the table: https://www.roland.com/us/products/jx-08/
With a 400 USD price tag this seems like a good deal.
Speaking of sound quality, I wonder whether the JX-08 is using the JX-8P Zenology engine. I hope not because that sounds really weak and uninspiring.
Last edited by Funkybot's Evil Twin on Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
michal.ochedowski michal.ochedowski https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=432708
- KVRist
- 107 posts since 31 Dec, 2018
What is patch permitting?Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:27 pm I just read on Instagram that the boutique has 128 voices of polyphony, patch permitting, so yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just the Zenology version wrapped up in a box.
-
- KVRian
- 614 posts since 26 Jun, 2016
Jx08 and JD08 wow
-
Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 12442 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Sorry, just to clarify....this is Rolandsynthandaira replied with on Instagram when someone asked. The exact words were, "The JD-08 has a maximum polyphony of 128 voices. Please note, this can vary depending on patch load. The JX-08 has a maximum polyphony of 20 voices."michal.ochedowski wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:39 pmWhat is patch permitting?Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:27 pm I just read on Instagram that the boutique has 128 voices of polyphony, patch permitting, so yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just the Zenology version wrapped up in a box.
-
michal.ochedowski michal.ochedowski https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=432708
- KVRist
- 107 posts since 31 Dec, 2018
Ok, I get it now. Thank you.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:44 pmSorry, just to clarify....this is Rolandsynthandaira replied with on Instagram when someone asked. The exact words were, "The JD-08 has a maximum polyphony of 128 voices. Please note, this can vary depending on patch load. The JX-08 has a maximum polyphony of 20 voices."michal.ochedowski wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:39 pmWhat is patch permitting?Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:27 pm I just read on Instagram that the boutique has 128 voices of polyphony, patch permitting, so yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just the Zenology version wrapped up in a box.
-
Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 12442 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Apologies for the misinformation I put out there. I checked IG too early and was only half paying attention.
-
- KVRer
- 8 posts since 4 Mar, 2021
I really hope that PG-8X will be revived soon 
Kudos to Martin for all the work he’s already done / will do in the future!
As I’m in the progress of creating a live rig with my Nord Stage 2 EX 88 + Novation SL61 mk3 with MainStage on my brand new MacBook Air M1, I’ve decided to try using only native Plug-ins - so far, PG-8X is my only plug-in that I would use live that isn’t native.
Furthermore, as it always crashes when learning MIDI, it’s not very useful for my live rig.
I’ve recreated the classic StabBrass with a Jupiter-8 plugin for now
Furthermore, already ordered JX-08 instead of using PG-8X - but maybe the plug-in will be native before my JX arrives… who knows ^^
Kudos to Martin for all the work he’s already done / will do in the future!
As I’m in the progress of creating a live rig with my Nord Stage 2 EX 88 + Novation SL61 mk3 with MainStage on my brand new MacBook Air M1, I’ve decided to try using only native Plug-ins - so far, PG-8X is my only plug-in that I would use live that isn’t native.
Furthermore, as it always crashes when learning MIDI, it’s not very useful for my live rig.
I’ve recreated the classic StabBrass with a Jupiter-8 plugin for now
Furthermore, already ordered JX-08 instead of using PG-8X - but maybe the plug-in will be native before my JX arrives… who knows ^^
-
- KVRist
- 311 posts since 31 Oct, 2015
I’m « test driving » the RC ZenCore Jx-8p model atm which is the same sound engine as the boutique and it can really sound great ! Doesn’t sound the same as pg-8x… quite usual with software synth clones !
-
- KVRist
- 115 posts since 8 Oct, 2016
there really are some divergences with PG8x, but i dont think its for the better. I actually dont like the envelope stage times/curves on the zenology at all. also not sure i like the way the filter on the zenology sounds either.
-
- Banned
- 410 posts since 5 Feb, 2012
The PG-8X nails the JX-8P sound and presets. As the owner of an MKS-70, I just think the PG-8X sounds more authentic than the Roland Cloud Zencore JX-8P model or the JX-08 Boutique (which is the same thing but packaged in this tiny, plastic, borderline unusable enclosure).XpanderDude wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:35 pm there really are some divergences with PG8x, but i dont think its for the better. I actually dont like the envelope stage times/curves on the zenology at all. also not sure i like the way the filter on the zenology sounds either.
Matrix-1000, MicroWave with Access programmer, MicroWave II, MKS-50 with MidiClub programmer, MKS-70, MKS-80 with Kiwi Patch Editor, Nord 2 Rack, Nord 3 Rack, Prophet REV2 module, Pulse 2, Shruthi, Virus TI
-
- KVRist
- 311 posts since 31 Oct, 2015
It seems the internet is telling the Roland ZC (Boutique jx-08) is as good as the real thing. I hope it won't lead to Martin let down his great vst !
-
- KVRAF
- 2429 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
Why would a hardware synth have any effect on a freeware soft-synth? Totally different target audiences, I'd say.SebAV wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:01 pm It seems the internet is telling the Roland ZC (Boutique jx-08) is as good as the real thing. I hope it won't lead to Martin let down his great vst !
-
- KVRist
- 311 posts since 31 Oct, 2015
Since the soft synth inside the Boutique is the same as the ZC jx8p model, the praise for the Boutique could made the latter more popular and appealing among people looking for a jx-8p software clone (and wanting a scalable UI and VST3, and perhaps a "safer" bet)mholloway wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:02 pmWhy would a hardware synth have any effect on a freeware soft-synth? Totally different target audiences, I'd say.SebAV wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:01 pm It seems the internet is telling the Roland ZC (Boutique jx-08) is as good as the real thing. I hope it won't lead to Martin let down his great vst !
