PG-8X (2.0) released

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Gadget Fiend wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:29 am Geez, the guy from Roland spent practically half the video demoing the stupid Boutique sequencer rather then playing patches from the JX-08 so we can hear what it sounds like.

Speaking of sound quality, I wonder whether the JX-08 is using the JX-8P Zenology engine. I hope not because that sounds really weak and uninspiring.
Details like that will probably be revealed soon. Especially if Roland is proud of its' sound engine. Good to know it's not up to par. I haven't checked it.

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Gadget Fiend wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:29 am
michal.ochedowski wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:42 am Meanwhile Roland decided to bring something new to the table: https://www.roland.com/us/products/jx-08/
With a 400 USD price tag this seems like a good deal.
Geez, the guy from Roland spent practically half the video demoing the stupid Boutique sequencer rather then playing patches from the JX-08 so we can hear what it sounds like.

Speaking of sound quality, I wonder whether the JX-08 is using the JX-8P Zenology engine. I hope not because that sounds really weak and uninspiring.
EDIT: see my next post...
Last edited by Funkybot's Evil Twin on Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:27 pm I just read on Instagram that the boutique has 128 voices of polyphony, patch permitting, so yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just the Zenology version wrapped up in a box.
What is patch permitting?

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Jx08 and JD08 wow

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Jx-08 20 voices polyphony amb (Zenology engine).

Jd-08 128 voices polyphony amb (Zenology engine).

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michal.ochedowski wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:39 pm
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:27 pm I just read on Instagram that the boutique has 128 voices of polyphony, patch permitting, so yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just the Zenology version wrapped up in a box.
What is patch permitting?
Sorry, just to clarify....this is Rolandsynthandaira replied with on Instagram when someone asked. The exact words were, "The JD-08 has a maximum polyphony of 128 voices. Please note, this can vary depending on patch load. The JX-08 has a maximum polyphony of 20 voices."

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:44 pm
michal.ochedowski wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:39 pm
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:27 pm I just read on Instagram that the boutique has 128 voices of polyphony, patch permitting, so yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just the Zenology version wrapped up in a box.
What is patch permitting?
Sorry, just to clarify....this is Rolandsynthandaira replied with on Instagram when someone asked. The exact words were, "The JD-08 has a maximum polyphony of 128 voices. Please note, this can vary depending on patch load. The JX-08 has a maximum polyphony of 20 voices."
Ok, I get it now. Thank you.

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Apologies for the misinformation I put out there. I checked IG too early and was only half paying attention.

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I really hope that PG-8X will be revived soon :)
Kudos to Martin for all the work he’s already done / will do in the future!

As I’m in the progress of creating a live rig with my Nord Stage 2 EX 88 + Novation SL61 mk3 with MainStage on my brand new MacBook Air M1, I’ve decided to try using only native Plug-ins - so far, PG-8X is my only plug-in that I would use live that isn’t native.
Furthermore, as it always crashes when learning MIDI, it’s not very useful for my live rig.
I’ve recreated the classic StabBrass with a Jupiter-8 plugin for now :)

Furthermore, already ordered JX-08 instead of using PG-8X - but maybe the plug-in will be native before my JX arrives… who knows ^^

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I’m « test driving » the RC ZenCore Jx-8p model atm which is the same sound engine as the boutique and it can really sound great ! Doesn’t sound the same as pg-8x… quite usual with software synth clones !

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there really are some divergences with PG8x, but i dont think its for the better. I actually dont like the envelope stage times/curves on the zenology at all. also not sure i like the way the filter on the zenology sounds either.

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XpanderDude wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:35 pm there really are some divergences with PG8x, but i dont think its for the better. I actually dont like the envelope stage times/curves on the zenology at all. also not sure i like the way the filter on the zenology sounds either.
The PG-8X nails the JX-8P sound and presets. As the owner of an MKS-70, I just think the PG-8X sounds more authentic than the Roland Cloud Zencore JX-8P model or the JX-08 Boutique (which is the same thing but packaged in this tiny, plastic, borderline unusable enclosure).
Matrix-1000, MicroWave with Access programmer, MicroWave II, MKS-50 with MidiClub programmer, MKS-70, MKS-80 with Kiwi Patch Editor, Nord 2 Rack, Nord 3 Rack, Prophet REV2 module, Pulse 2, Shruthi, Virus TI

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It seems the internet is telling the Roland ZC (Boutique jx-08) is as good as the real thing. I hope it won't lead to Martin let down his great vst !

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SebAV wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:01 pm It seems the internet is telling the Roland ZC (Boutique jx-08) is as good as the real thing. I hope it won't lead to Martin let down his great vst !
Why would a hardware synth have any effect on a freeware soft-synth? Totally different target audiences, I'd say.

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mholloway wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:02 pm
SebAV wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:01 pm It seems the internet is telling the Roland ZC (Boutique jx-08) is as good as the real thing. I hope it won't lead to Martin let down his great vst !
Why would a hardware synth have any effect on a freeware soft-synth? Totally different target audiences, I'd say.
Since the soft synth inside the Boutique is the same as the ZC jx8p model, the praise for the Boutique could made the latter more popular and appealing among people looking for a jx-8p software clone (and wanting a scalable UI and VST3, and perhaps a "safer" bet)

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